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Deep Water Automatic Inflatable Life Jacket - $99

Post by dlandersson » Fri Oct 26, 2018 6:26 am

Deep Water Automatic Inflatable Life Jacket - $99

https://www.westmarine.com/buy/west-mar ... ecordNum=1

Is this a good deal?

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Re: Deep Water Automatic Inflatable Life Jacket - $99

Post by Nauti Nell » Fri Oct 26, 2018 11:37 am

dlandersson wrote:Deep Water Automatic Inflatable Life Jacket - $99

https://www.westmarine.com/buy/west-mar ... ecordNum=1

Is this a good deal?
I bought a couple of the offshore ( https://www.westmarine.com/buy/west-mar ... ecordNum=9 ) for the same price or $10 more about a year ago. For saillboating I like the idea of having the D rings to tether me to the boat. WM tends to have 50% off sales a couple of times a year.

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Re: Deep Water Automatic Inflatable Life Jacket - $99

Post by NiceAft » Fri Oct 26, 2018 3:25 pm

With these self inflating vests, keep in mind that the inflation is not instantaneous. There is a delay of seconds, so, if you happen to fall overboard, and are treading water, while waiting to be picked up, don’t be too startled when there is a sudden inflation, and you now have a size 52 chest. :D

The vest you purchase should also be able to right an unconscious wearer in the water.

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Post by whgoffrn » Sat Oct 27, 2018 1:29 pm

I havent bought any of the life vests similar to those the inflatable ones simply because i cant decide which is safer...self inflating or where you have to pull the cord. I have nilled over which one for anout a year and think im going with manual inflation
If a boat capsizes or turns turtle and floats like our boats will and if you have kids or family down below you wont be able to swim down to get them or if it inflates while youre down in the cabin you may get pinnes to bottom as air rises and the boat is floating upside down.
Of course the downside is if you fall overboard and knocked unconcious the self inflating is the way to go. I guess it depends which scenario you think is least likely to happen and buy the opposite vest
I have 2 kids who spend more of their time down below so i imagine that is more likely that i would have to swim down below to get them to the surface then deploy the pfd

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Post by kurz » Sat Oct 27, 2018 1:42 pm

whgoffrn wrote:II guess it depends which scenario you think is least likely to happen and buy the opposite vest
Well the problem is that is IMPOSSIBLE to know in advance which scenario of an imergency will be the least likely to happen.
If an emegency will happen it will be complet different of what you are thinking now... :evil:

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Post by Nauti Nell » Sat Oct 27, 2018 2:28 pm

I had some of the same vacillation regarding self or manual inflating. I went with the self. If I go overboard and am in good shape I can easily undo the buckle shed the jacket and go below to help if needed. If I go over and am unconscious I am probably dead if using the manual. If the boat does go over and I'm in it there is probably a big enough air bubble to grab a breath and help my self and or others. The main consideration, when buying the Mac, was that with the ballast tank full the boat is almost impossible to turn turtle.

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Post by NiceAft » Sat Oct 27, 2018 2:58 pm

There are so many scenarios of what might unexpectantly cause one to be in the water, that trying to figure out which jacket to purchase may have you not do anything. Nothing is a cure all.

I went for the auto inflating with a “D” ring for a tether. If the scenario presented itself where I needed to submerge in order to rescue someone, I would like to believe that I would remove the vest and attempt rescue as opposed to not doing so, and lamenting that I was wearing an inflated vest.

If trapped below, removing the vest, and allowing its flotation to help you out seems reasonable.

It’s so much easier to figure this out in a non pressured enviornment. Let’s hope that if any of us were unfortunate enough to be in such situations, we would keep our heads, and be able to survive for another day.

Ray

P.S. I have had six self inflating vest for thirteen years. Every few years I replace the bobbin. There is an expense in maintaining these types of PFD’s

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Post by whgoffrn » Sat Oct 27, 2018 9:44 pm

True its hard to plan for an emergency. I keep thinking of those kids that drown on the mac and how no one could get to them. Plagues my mind with how to avoid it...obviously ballast tank full. Im going to assume that when our boats turn turtle if they do only 2 or 3 feet is still bobbing which prob would leave most of the cabin still submerged making it hard to find an air pocket... or i wonder if its so submerged that while floating it isnt holding any air just styrofoam keeping it barely above the surface in a turtle state. But yeah youre right too much contemplating often leads to no action at all hence i dont own either :-/ i do have shark repellent though lol

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Re: Deep Water Automatic Inflatable Life Jacket - $99

Post by Tomfoolery » Sun Oct 28, 2018 7:13 am

I don't know that it's a great price, but it's a good price at least. Marked-down a lot from a marked-up a lot price. 33 lb of buoyancy is good.

I use an auto-inflatable, with manual lanyard which I think they all have. It has two buckles, which I can do and undo in the dark without looking, so I'm not concerned about not being able to take it off if I need to. But if I get hit in the head by the boom or have a stroke or something, I want the auto-inflate capability.

If you get an auto-inflatable, make sure you can get new bobbins for it at reasonable cost. Obsolete or odd-ball bobbins make rearming expensive, and those bobbins are only good for a few years before they weaken and inflate the vest without being dunked, and then you need a new CO2 canister, too.

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Post by dlandersson » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:23 pm

Well, I'm embarrassed. I looked at these as being a notch above what I have now, plus they come with a "pocket" for stuff. :D
Tomfoolery wrote:I don't know that it's a great price, but it's a good price at least. Marked-down a lot from a marked-up a lot price. 33 lb of buoyancy is good.

I use an auto-inflatable, with manual lanyard which I think they all have. It has two buckles, which I can do and undo in the dark without looking, so I'm not concerned about not being able to take it off if I need to. But if I get hit in the head by the boom or have a stroke or something, I want the auto-inflate capability.

If you get an auto-inflatable, make sure you can get new bobbins for it at reasonable cost. Obsolete or odd-ball bobbins make rearming expensive, and those bobbins are only good for a few years before they weaken and inflate the vest without being dunked, and then you need a new CO2 canister, too.

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Post by Jimmyt » Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:27 am

I know the referenced drowning has been hashed several times. Hopefully, none of us will be taking out 9 people, several of which were on deck, with no ballast. I'm sure that many of us, however ( myself included), fail to police/secure loose lines. One of the rescuers reportedly spent quite awhile trying to get one of the victims out due to line entanglement. The second victim was so entangled she had to be cut out (according to the account I read).

So, if we eliminate overloading, no ballast, poor crew weight distribution, and boating while drunk, line entanglement is an area that might deserve some consideration. Although our boats won't sink, portions could be partially submerged, enabling a line entanglement drowning. Probably a good idea to carry a knife, and a better idea to police/secure lines.

The admiral and I both wear the self inflating vests, starting at launch. I've paid slightly less than $99 and a bit more for them, depending on whether they were on sale or not. Really enjoy the freedom of movement that these vests offer. I carry about 6 standard vests on board as backup.

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Post by whgoffrn » Mon Oct 29, 2018 1:30 pm

For line entangelment while down below i keep all my ropes in large 2 gallon clear ziplock bags so i can find which ropes im looking for ... i mostly do that to keep the numerous ropes and extension cords and bungee cords from making 1 big spaghetti ball... but i guess it could serve dual purposes

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Re: Deep Water Automatic Inflatable Life Jacket - $99

Post by Highlander » Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:01 pm

Their was an article about inflatable pfd without jock straps in Practical Sailor not good if u got caught in a surfing situation if a boat ran aground
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Re: Deep Water Automatic Inflatable Life Jacket - $99

Post by apsaunders » Fri Nov 23, 2018 9:09 pm

Academy Sports have Coast Guard approved "automatic inflate" life jackets on Black Friday sale for $59.99. No limit. Normally $90. I got 5.

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Re: Deep Water Automatic Inflatable Life Jacket - $99

Post by dlandersson » Sat Nov 24, 2018 9:12 am

Link?
apsaunders wrote:Academy Sports have Coast Guard approved "automatic inflate" life jackets on Black Friday sale for $59.99. No limit. Normally $90. I got 5.

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