Have I missed anything, assumed stuff that is not true, forgotten any potential considerations, or made any false or unfounded conclusions.
moving lift point on X centerboard
- ALX357
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moving lift point on X centerboard
Have I missed anything, assumed stuff that is not true, forgotten any potential considerations, or made any false or unfounded conclusions.
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- Newell
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Re: moving lift point on X centerboard
Go for it, you understand correctly, however, I like others had a rough entry at the compression post and the alignment was wrong. When I converted from cable to line, I re-aligned the exit hole for the line on the depression side, also cut part of the non-depression side out so the line would lay in close to the surface, my purpose was to avoid binding in the trunk and stay out of the water stream as much as possible. Also faired out the compression post entry with a long shaft and emory cloth.
Has had lots of use and no problems.
Newell
Fast Sunday 96X, Windancer 89D
Has had lots of use and no problems.
Newell
Fast Sunday 96X, Windancer 89D
- ALX357
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Re: moving lift point on X centerboard
For that, it might be a good idea, LIKE YOU MENTIONED, to embed the line in a routed out path between the holes, to some extent, although the board is probably not thick enough to bury the 5/16" line completely, without making it a slot from hole to hole, and losing the pull on the off-side, which would result in the line being attached only on the one side of the board, and tending to pull the the board apart. One advantage of the wire is the thinness.
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Re: moving lift point on X centerboard
I still have the original wire / line lift that came with my 1996 X, it is still in great shape. I bought a spare years ago but have had no reason to ever change it. The wire goes from the board all the way up inside the compression post out the hole in the deck making the turn to horizontal over a SS rod welded to the mast step. From there it goes to the starboard side of the hatch track where it makes a turn on a cheek block. Just past this in the full down position it has a eye crimped in it's end where it transitions to a line that goes back to the cam cleat for securing.
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Re: moving lift point on X centerboard
Duane, Thanks, and another question ....
what is the attachment of the wire to the board ? a swaged eye in the cable, with a bolt thru the eye and board, or an eye-bolt in the board, with swaged eye in the cable .... ?? It must be a real flexy wire, to go over that small bolt at the mast base in a 90-degree turn, under tension.
what is the attachment of the wire to the board ? a swaged eye in the cable, with a bolt thru the eye and board, or an eye-bolt in the board, with swaged eye in the cable .... ?? It must be a real flexy wire, to go over that small bolt at the mast base in a 90-degree turn, under tension.
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Re: moving lift point on X centerboard
From what I could see when I replaced mine - bolt, washer, eye-splice and all - there was a rubbed notch in the gel-coat that corresponded to the Nicopress eye that I put in my new cable - so I figure that the factory used a Nicopress eye-splice in the original cable. The port side of the centerboard had a depression or cut-out for the cable and the nut end of the bolt; the starboard side was flush, with a hole countersunk to accept a 1/4" flat-head screw.ALX357 wrote:Duane, Thanks, and another question ....
what is the attachment of the wire to the board ? a swaged eye in the cable, with a bolt thru the eye and board, or an eye-bolt in the board, with swaged eye in the cable .... ?? It must be a real flexy wire, to go over that small bolt at the mast base in a 90-degree turn, under tension.
I made a Nicopress eye-splice in the centerboard end of the cable, with a fender washer to keep it in place, a Nylock nut, and a 1/4-20 x 1 1/4" screw. (The wrench-tightened style of Nicopress swaging tool is fairly inexpensive, and that's what I used. I fed the cable down from the deck eye, and tied the bitter end through the deck block to keep it up topsides; then I swaged the eye with the cable in place. I couldn't see pushing the cable up through the compression post!)
The cable is 5/32" 7x19 stainless cable - the most flexible type available.
Sorry to say, I didn't measure the exact length of the cable that I installed - but I asked for 12 feet to be sure I'd have enough, and the salesman cut at least 4 extra feet. I used the extra to put my top eye-splice about 12" from the cam-cleat, so I could use it as a marker to determine how much of the centerboard is down. (Some time when Bossa Nova is in clear-enough waters, I mean to calibrate that.)
Hope this helps -
Rick
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Re: moving lift point on X centerboard
I replaced my steel cable with a 5/16 braided line. I took the line to a rigger to make a eye splice big enough for the centerboard bolt to go thru ($10). I did this as I didn't want a knot on the other side.When I took the centerboard out I noticed the original steel cable had worn thru the gelcoat a couple of inches up from the bottom.
I also found my centerboard had split 10 inches around the head at the seam and had to reglass and gelcoat the Board, I also poured resin inside the holes in centerboard and moved the board all around to give the inside a coat.
You will need a snake line taped to the other end of eye splice and feed it up from the bottom.
I need to build in a roller at the top as the line has to much friction on the stainless rod makeing the 90degree turn.
Dave
I also found my centerboard had split 10 inches around the head at the seam and had to reglass and gelcoat the Board, I also poured resin inside the holes in centerboard and moved the board all around to give the inside a coat.
You will need a snake line taped to the other end of eye splice and feed it up from the bottom.
I need to build in a roller at the top as the line has to much friction on the stainless rod makeing the 90degree turn.
Dave
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Re: moving lift point on X centerboard
I going the non-metallic route, with a CB raising line as discussed in the long prior posting, and resolved the issue of embedding the one inch of line on the off-side, where it exits and re-enters the board, by dremelling with a small sanding drum, a channel from hole to hole, only an inch long ditch in the board, and only a half rope thickness, (about an eighth-inch deep,) to partially bury the line in. 'Also slanted the upper hole, to favor the lifting direction and give the line a softer angle of lift on the board.
Amsteel is about 3 or 4 times the expense, for 5/16", but maybe it would be worth the extra abrasion resistance. I don't really want to do this again, at least not in the next 5 years.
Amsteel is about 3 or 4 times the expense, for 5/16", but maybe it would be worth the extra abrasion resistance. I don't really want to do this again, at least not in the next 5 years.
