Photoman369 wrote:Thank you then I guess I don't need the Johnson adjustable quick release. Just use the MRS pin it and let off the Mrs the shrouds will be the proper tension. Provided the forestay and shrouds are all set to correct length. In letting off the backstay how do I get that hooked back up at the proper tension. I has a stay adjust with two plates with holes to set the length you want, but how do you tension that.
I have a cheesy bronze turnbuckle that I spin by hand, with no locking mechanism (no cotter pins or lock nuts), as they're really not needed (I drop the mast a few times a year, and it's at the cockpit anyway for quick tweak if needed after it's been up a while). I only tighten it so it's 'snug', whatever that means. It doesn't do much until you're sailing downwind and the main sheet isn't pulling down on the boom much (both due to being over the side, and being under light load, when on a broad reach or run).
If you're staying with the stay adjuster, then consider either the little adjuster tool BWY sells, or make your own, or use the two-awl method to walk it in. I have the small Johnson lever which I never got around to installing, as I don't think the pins or right, or the openings, or something. Nothing that couldn't be overcome with a little effort, but I just never did it, and the ease of spinning the turnbuckle a dozen times sort of limits my enthusiasm for putting in the effort to adapt the Johnson lever. But it certainly would be quicker to pin it and just snap the Johnson lever in place, by some marginal amount.
I use the forestay adjustment to set the mast angle to where I like it, which is a bit less than the 4 degrees the manual specifies (the boat rounds-up too easily with that much rake, IMO), and then tension the side stays. I don't have a Loos gauge, so I adjust the uppers to what by feel seems about right, and the lowers a bit looser so there's a couple of inches of bend in the mast. When it's right, the lee shrouds don't get floppy-loose when heeled far over, but they are on the verge of going slack.
As I said, it's just from experience with this boat, though it would certainly be useful to have a gauge, to make it easier to reset the tensions from time to time. But I make a mental note of what the shrouds are doing when sailing hard, and every once in a long while I'll take another 1/8" (one vernier pitch) on the adjusters if necessary, though I think I've only done that once since I replaced the shrouds. Putting extra load on them when cranking down on the MRS in order to make the forestay pin isn't much different than heeling the boat hard over, only all of them are under increased load rather than just the windward ones. It would be interesting to know how much more load, though. Hmmmm - I have a birthday coming up in a couple of weeks, and my FIL always gets me something for the boat. Maybe a Loos gauge . . . hmmmmm.