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Re: 26M sink faucet

Postby Tomfoolery » Thu Nov 09, 2017 7:48 pm

BOAT wrote:In particular - is this one of those that automatically starts pumping when there is a drop in the pressure?

Yes or no.

BOAT wrote:Or is it a system where your turning on the pump when you turn the switch?

Yes or no.

BOAT wrote:I assume there is no actual "valve" on the faucet? Or does the faucet actually have a valve that opens and closes and is the pump sensing the drop in pressure?

There is an actual valve in the faucet, and it's variable, from drops to full flow. You can connect it to city water if you want.

You can use it with either a pump with pressure switch and not use the built-in switch, or one without by using the switch to activate the pump when the valve is cracked open. You can also wire a pump with automatic pressure switch through the valve's switch, so the pump doesn't cycle occasionally if there's a slow leak somewhere (or internally within the pump).
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Re: 26M sink faucet

Postby BOAT » Thu Nov 09, 2017 7:52 pm

That combo in the picture has a picture of a pump that comes with the unit - is that a "demand" pump? Or is it an on off pump?
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Re: 26M sink faucet

Postby Tomfoolery » Thu Nov 09, 2017 7:56 pm

That's the pump I have. No pressure switch; it uses the switch inside the faucet.
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Re: 26M sink faucet

Postby BOAT » Fri Nov 10, 2017 12:05 pm

The pump is the right pump for my use but the faucet is another story - that valve is going to be a problem - I was hoping to have a switch on the front of the galley to make the water come out that you could lean on or something like that (to replace a foot pump style thing) trying to avoid all the plumbing that a foot pump will create with a sliding galley - but that valve - that throws off everything - the valve will be closed so my button will not make any water come out.

Looks like the right pump but wrong faucet for my project.

Still noodling.

This is more difficult than I thought.

The foot pump was a GREAT idea but when I considered the sliding galley I realized it was a non-starter. Bummer. :(
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Re: 26M sink faucet

Postby Seapup » Fri Nov 10, 2017 12:32 pm

The pump is the right pump for my use but the faucet is another story - that valve is going to be a problem - I was hoping to have a switch on the front of the galley to make the water come out that you could lean on or something like that (to replace a foot pump style thing) trying to avoid all the plumbing that a foot pump will create with a sliding galley - but that valve - that throws off everything - the valve will be closed so my button will not make any water come out.


The built in switch starts the pump as you open the valve and keeps the pump on until you close the valve so you have flow control. The pumps only put out about 1 gallon per minute so flow control is not really necessary. My faucet switch went bad so I put a push button switch next to the sink to kick the pump on and left the valve open. The pump that came with it also went bad eventually so I replaced it with a $20 pump that had a built in pressure valve. That way the pump would kick on automatically when you open the sink valve (I never used it that way in fear of a leak) or you just leave the sink valve open and use a switch to turn the pump on and off.

Basically any cold water faucet will work if you leave the valve open with any 12v pump and put a switch where you want.

I replaced the pump with one like this
https://www.amazon.com/bayite-Pressure-Diaphragm-Priming-Sprayer/dp/B01N75ZIXF/ref=sr_1_3?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1510333885&sr=1-3&keywords=12v+rv+water+pump&dpID=51fv803owPL&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch

The black ring on the faucet is a wrap of electric tape so people would not close the valve.
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Now I am using a faucet like this, you can run it off a foot pump or 12v.
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Re: 26M sink faucet

Postby BOAT » Fri Nov 10, 2017 1:13 pm

Image

Very nice.

Yup, the foot pump would work GREAT with that good looking galley in the picture but alas, :( that is an X galley - I have an M galley, and it is not a fixed galley like the one in the X boat. My galley slides from the front of the boat to the back. The plumbing required to rig up a foot pump would be ridiculous - so that is why I am focusing my attention on an electric pump and switch solution to get the same effect as a foot pump.

Because of the sliding galley you pretty much need to do the entire galley water supply and plumbing and pressure equipment in one place - inside the galley - so it will slide with the galley. Not really a big problem, but needs to be considered.

The sliding galley is probably one of the greatest conveniences in the boat and I would never ever ever get rid of it - the sliding function is just too darn useful - I need to work around it.
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Re: 26M sink faucet

Postby npsrangerchuck » Sat Nov 11, 2017 10:58 am

BOAT wrote:The sliding galley is probably one of the greatest conveniences in the boat and I would never ever ever get rid of it - the sliding function is just too darn useful - I need to work around it.


I would have to agree. I find the sliding galley to present some challenges for water system mods but the convenience is too important to give up and "fix" it in place.
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Re: 26M sink faucet

Postby Nauti Nell » Sat Nov 11, 2017 6:06 pm

I currently have a pressure water system in my sliding galley. I am hoping to change it so that the tank is no longer in the sliding galley. It just takes up so much space and leaves a lot of the remaining space unusable. I also have a pump installed by a previous owner that is in the drain line under the sink which also takes up space. I was planning on removing the drain line pump and going back to the original gravity feed drain. Then just run enough extra water line back to where the drain line goes into the sliding galley. Then zip tie the two together so that when sliding the galley is moved there is enough spare line to move the main water line back and forth with the drain line. Not sure I have conveyed my thoughts properly to paper but hopefully you get the gist of it.
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