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Ruddercraft rudders for the 26X

Postby dlandersson » Thu Sep 06, 2018 7:43 pm

Has anyone looked at these? Are they any better than the OEM 26X ' -95-99? 8)

https://ruddercraft.com/index.php?route ... order=DESC
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Re: Ruddercraft rudders for the 26X

Postby Herschel » Thu Sep 06, 2018 8:39 pm

My 1998 26X came with them when I bought it in 2003. I like them because they bolt into the rudder bracket for trailering, giving good security from accidental falls in transport. In addition, I like that they store upright astern and don't stick out beyond the engine cowling. They have been very functional for me.
The one time I did neglect to raise them before I pulled the trailer out of the water, I was able to repair the tips with standard fiberglass cloth and epoxy resin.
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Re: Ruddercraft rudders for the 26X

Postby dlandersson » Fri Sep 07, 2018 5:25 am

Are those the OEM or the ruddercraft replacements?

They look the same.

Herschel wrote:My 1998 26X came with them when I bought it in 2003. I like them because they bolt into the rudder bracket for trailering, giving good security from accidental falls in transport. In addition, I like that they store upright astern and don't stick out beyond the engine cowling. They have been very functional for me.
The one time I did neglect to raise them before I pulled the trailer out of the water, I was able to repair the tips with standard fiberglass cloth and epoxy resin.
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Re: Ruddercraft rudders for the 26X

Postby Herschel » Fri Sep 07, 2018 9:03 am

dlandersson wrote:Are those the OEM or the ruddercraft replacements?

They look the same.

Herschel wrote:My 1998 26X came with them when I bought it in 2003. I like them because they bolt into the rudder bracket for trailering, giving good security from accidental falls in transport. In addition, I like that they store upright astern and don't stick out beyond the engine cowling. They have been very functional for me.
The one time I did neglect to raise them before I pulled the trailer out of the water, I was able to repair the tips with standard fiberglass cloth and epoxy resin.
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My oversight. I didn't realize they were two different rudders. Sorry. Mine are the OEM.
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Re: Ruddercraft rudders for the 26X

Postby bwygirl » Fri Sep 07, 2018 2:36 pm

The 26X have a couple choices for rudders. The HDPE Rudders (from BWY or Ruddercraft) (same price) are a dense plastic material. They are very nice but do add some weight when raising and lowering. This can be overcome by simply moving the hole in the rudder back some to allow for a better angle to raise them by. They should hold up real well. The fiberglass ones are lighter, but they can be damaged a little easier. The fiberglass ones are less expensive too. For me the added weight was a little more noticeable to raise up and hence a little more difficult, it meant that I had to use gloves. Hope this helps. Cheryl
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Re: Ruddercraft rudders for the 26X

Postby dlandersson » Fri Sep 07, 2018 5:48 pm

Are the ones you are talking about for the 95-97 or later? I have the ear;lier, and I did not see anything on the ruddercraft web site for 95-97 rudders except OEM.

bwygirl wrote:The 26X have a couple choices for rudders. The HDPE Rudders (from BWY or Ruddercraft) (same price) are a dense plastic material. They are very nice but do add some weight when raising and lowering. This can be overcome by simply moving the hole in the rudder back some to allow for a better angle to raise them by. They should hold up real well. The fiberglass ones are lighter, but they can be damaged a little easier. The fiberglass ones are less expensive too. For me the added weight was a little more noticeable to raise up and hence a little more difficult, it meant that I had to use gloves. Hope this helps. Cheryl
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Re: Ruddercraft rudders for the 26X

Postby March » Sat Sep 08, 2018 11:00 am

If the profile is the same for plastic or fiberglass, I would choose fiberglass. Even though they are easily nicked, they are equally easily to patch: the small nicks with Marine Tex and the major ones with resin and fiberglass.
I am still wondering how much more effective the different profiled rudders are?
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Re: Ruddercraft rudders for the 26X

Postby Hamin' X » Sun Sep 09, 2018 3:49 pm

One, or two members of the forum have reported that the Rudder Craft rudder has snapped off in heavy seas. To be fair, we have heard about OEM rudders and brackets also breaking. Rudder Craft was formerly sold under the Idasailor brand, so you might want to search with that term.

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Re: Ruddercraft rudders for the 26X

Postby beene » Mon Sep 10, 2018 11:47 am

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Re: Ruddercraft rudders for the 26X

Postby dlandersson » Mon Sep 10, 2018 2:31 pm

Just so we're clear:

I don't need new rudders. I'm only interested if the new rudder would be an improvement over the OEM ones. 8)

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Re: Ruddercraft rudders for the 26X

Postby Herschel » Mon Sep 10, 2018 9:36 pm

dlandersson wrote:Just so we're clear:

I don't need new rudders. I'm only interested if the new rudder would be an improvement over the OEM ones. 8)


Perhaps if you indicated in what way "better" you were interested, it would help. Most of the feedback has been about which type rudders are easier to repair if broken or ground down by an unfriendly road or ramp. In that sense, the OEM fiberglass ones would seem easier to repair. As to sailing performance, if they are the same shape, I can't see how the newer rudders would add significantly to the performance of the boat. But only someone who has sailed with both can answer that. I have not. I am sticking with my OEM rudders because I have other things I had rather spend the money on like a newer chart plotter, or a DSC VHF radio, or new interior cushions, or a custom SeaDek carpet for the cabin and cockpit! :)
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Re: Ruddercraft rudders for the 26X

Postby beene » Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:10 am

dlandersson wrote:Just so we're clear:

I don't need new rudders. I'm only interested if the new rudder would be an improvement over the OEM ones. 8)



The larger plastic ones are shorter, but thicker and wider.

My experience with them for several years was:
- they perform better
- but snap easier under load as they are plastic and not as strong as the OEM fiberglass ones

My advice, stick with anything that is fiberglass over plastic, regardless of performance.
Both of my plastic enhanced rudders snapped at the same spot 1 day apart.
My OEM left rudder is 12 years old and going strong.

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Re: Ruddercraft rudders for the 26X

Postby dlandersson » Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:42 pm

Yeah, my OEM rudders are 10+ years old and doing well. Always interested in improvements where practical. 8)

beene wrote:
dlandersson wrote:Just so we're clear:

I don't need new rudders. I'm only interested if the new rudder would be an improvement over the OEM ones. 8)



The larger plastic ones are shorter, but thicker and wider.

My experience with them for several years was:
- they perform better
- but snap easier under load as they are plastic and not as strong as the OEM fiberglass ones

My advice, stick with anything that is fiberglass over plastic, regardless of performance.
Both of my plastic enhanced rudders snapped at the same spot 1 day apart.
My OEM left rudder is 12 years old and going strong.

G
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Re: Ruddercraft rudders for the 26X

Postby Herschel » Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:53 pm

dlandersson wrote:Yeah, my OEM rudders are 10+ years old and doing well. Always interested in improvements where practical. 8)

beene wrote:
dlandersson wrote:Just so we're clear:

I don't need new rudders. I'm only interested if the new rudder would be an improvement over the OEM ones. 8)



The larger plastic ones are shorter, but thicker and wider.

My experience with them for several years was:
- they perform better
- but snap easier under load as they are plastic and not as strong as the OEM fiberglass ones

My advice, stick with anything that is fiberglass over plastic, regardless of performance.
Both of my plastic enhanced rudders snapped at the same spot 1 day apart.
My OEM left rudder is 12 years old and going strong.

G

And my OEM rudders are 20 years old and still very good. :D
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Re: Ruddercraft rudders for the 26X

Postby Highlander » Thu Sep 13, 2018 3:40 pm

My OEM Rudders r still new in the box 10yrs old been using my Ida sailor rudders since 2008 no issue,s but the first thing I done with the steering was align the rudders they were away out of alignment when I got the boat new & I think thats why some guy,s r havin issue,s breakin rudders

Just sayin That,s All

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