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Ruddercraft rudders for the 26X

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 7:43 pm
by dlandersson
Has anyone looked at these? Are they any better than the OEM 26X ' -95-99? 8)

https://ruddercraft.com/index.php?route ... order=DESC

Re: Ruddercraft rudders for the 26X

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 8:39 pm
by Herschel
My 1998 26X came with them when I bought it in 2003. I like them because they bolt into the rudder bracket for trailering, giving good security from accidental falls in transport. In addition, I like that they store upright astern and don't stick out beyond the engine cowling. They have been very functional for me.
The one time I did neglect to raise them before I pulled the trailer out of the water, I was able to repair the tips with standard fiberglass cloth and epoxy resin.
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Re: Ruddercraft rudders for the 26X

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 5:25 am
by dlandersson
Are those the OEM or the ruddercraft replacements?

They look the same.
Herschel wrote:My 1998 26X came with them when I bought it in 2003. I like them because they bolt into the rudder bracket for trailering, giving good security from accidental falls in transport. In addition, I like that they store upright astern and don't stick out beyond the engine cowling. They have been very functional for me.
The one time I did neglect to raise them before I pulled the trailer out of the water, I was able to repair the tips with standard fiberglass cloth and epoxy resin.
Image

Re: Ruddercraft rudders for the 26X

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 9:03 am
by Herschel
dlandersson wrote:Are those the OEM or the ruddercraft replacements?

They look the same.
Herschel wrote:My 1998 26X came with them when I bought it in 2003. I like them because they bolt into the rudder bracket for trailering, giving good security from accidental falls in transport. In addition, I like that they store upright astern and don't stick out beyond the engine cowling. They have been very functional for me.
The one time I did neglect to raise them before I pulled the trailer out of the water, I was able to repair the tips with standard fiberglass cloth and epoxy resin.
Image
My oversight. I didn't realize they were two different rudders. Sorry. Mine are the OEM.

Re: Ruddercraft rudders for the 26X

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 2:36 pm
by bwygirl
The 26X have a couple choices for rudders. The HDPE Rudders (from BWY or Ruddercraft) (same price) are a dense plastic material. They are very nice but do add some weight when raising and lowering. This can be overcome by simply moving the hole in the rudder back some to allow for a better angle to raise them by. They should hold up real well. The fiberglass ones are lighter, but they can be damaged a little easier. The fiberglass ones are less expensive too. For me the added weight was a little more noticeable to raise up and hence a little more difficult, it meant that I had to use gloves. Hope this helps. Cheryl

Re: Ruddercraft rudders for the 26X

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 5:48 pm
by dlandersson
Are the ones you are talking about for the 95-97 or later? I have the ear;lier, and I did not see anything on the ruddercraft web site for 95-97 rudders except OEM.
bwygirl wrote:The 26X have a couple choices for rudders. The HDPE Rudders (from BWY or Ruddercraft) (same price) are a dense plastic material. They are very nice but do add some weight when raising and lowering. This can be overcome by simply moving the hole in the rudder back some to allow for a better angle to raise them by. They should hold up real well. The fiberglass ones are lighter, but they can be damaged a little easier. The fiberglass ones are less expensive too. For me the added weight was a little more noticeable to raise up and hence a little more difficult, it meant that I had to use gloves. Hope this helps. Cheryl

Re: Ruddercraft rudders for the 26X

Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 11:00 am
by March
If the profile is the same for plastic or fiberglass, I would choose fiberglass. Even though they are easily nicked, they are equally easily to patch: the small nicks with Marine Tex and the major ones with resin and fiberglass.
I am still wondering how much more effective the different profiled rudders are?

Re: Ruddercraft rudders for the 26X

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2018 3:49 pm
by Hamin' X
One, or two members of the forum have reported that the Rudder Craft rudder has snapped off in heavy seas. To be fair, we have heard about OEM rudders and brackets also breaking. Rudder Craft was formerly sold under the Idasailor brand, so you might want to search with that term.

~Rich

Re: Ruddercraft rudders for the 26X

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 2:31 pm
by dlandersson
Just so we're clear:

I don't need new rudders. I'm only interested if the new rudder would be an improvement over the OEM ones. 8)

Re: Ruddercraft rudders for the 26X

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 9:36 pm
by Herschel
dlandersson wrote:Just so we're clear:

I don't need new rudders. I'm only interested if the new rudder would be an improvement over the OEM ones. 8)
Perhaps if you indicated in what way "better" you were interested, it would help. Most of the feedback has been about which type rudders are easier to repair if broken or ground down by an unfriendly road or ramp. In that sense, the OEM fiberglass ones would seem easier to repair. As to sailing performance, if they are the same shape, I can't see how the newer rudders would add significantly to the performance of the boat. But only someone who has sailed with both can answer that. I have not. I am sticking with my OEM rudders because I have other things I had rather spend the money on like a newer chart plotter, or a DSC VHF radio, or new interior cushions, or a custom SeaDek carpet for the cabin and cockpit! :)

Re: Ruddercraft rudders for the 26X

Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:42 pm
by dlandersson
Yeah, my OEM rudders are 10+ years old and doing well. Always interested in improvements where practical. 8)
beene wrote:
dlandersson wrote:Just so we're clear:

I don't need new rudders. I'm only interested if the new rudder would be an improvement over the OEM ones. 8)
The larger plastic ones are shorter, but thicker and wider.

My experience with them for several years was:
- they perform better
- but snap easier under load as they are plastic and not as strong as the OEM fiberglass ones

My advice, stick with anything that is fiberglass over plastic, regardless of performance.
Both of my plastic enhanced rudders snapped at the same spot 1 day apart.
My OEM left rudder is 12 years old and going strong.

G

Re: Ruddercraft rudders for the 26X

Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:53 pm
by Herschel
dlandersson wrote:Yeah, my OEM rudders are 10+ years old and doing well. Always interested in improvements where practical. 8)
beene wrote:
dlandersson wrote:Just so we're clear:

I don't need new rudders. I'm only interested if the new rudder would be an improvement over the OEM ones. 8)
The larger plastic ones are shorter, but thicker and wider.

My experience with them for several years was:
- they perform better
- but snap easier under load as they are plastic and not as strong as the OEM fiberglass ones

My advice, stick with anything that is fiberglass over plastic, regardless of performance.
Both of my plastic enhanced rudders snapped at the same spot 1 day apart.
My OEM left rudder is 12 years old and going strong.

G
And my OEM rudders are 20 years old and still very good. :D

Re: Ruddercraft rudders for the 26X

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 3:40 pm
by Highlander
My OEM Rudders r still new in the box 10yrs old been using my Ida sailor rudders since 2008 no issue,s but the first thing I done with the steering was align the rudders they were away out of alignment when I got the boat new & I think thats why some guy,s r havin issue,s breakin rudders

Just sayin That,s All

J 8)

Re: Ruddercraft rudders for the 26X

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:47 pm
by Newell
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... 070&type=3,

My 96X is 22 years old with original rudders, she has been broached, blown over, rounded up violently and the rudders are just fine. However, the AL rudder brackets have been way beefed up.

Tried to add a pic from facebook, looks like no luck. :x

Re: Ruddercraft rudders for the 26X

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 10:10 am
by beene
Highlander wrote:My OEM Rudders r still new in the box 10yrs old been using my Ida sailor rudders since 2008 no issue,s but the first thing I done with the steering was align the rudders they were away out of alignment when I got the boat new & I think thats why some guy,s r havin issue,s breakin rudders

Just sayin That,s All

J 8)
In your case, to say you've been "using" your IDA rudders since 2008 is a wee bit misleading.
It might be more helpful to let folks know how many sailing hours have you logged on them.
Some might think you have been sailing with them for 10 years at 12 months each year and logged thousands of hours on them.

When in reality, you might have logged 10 hours of actual sailing time since 2008?

Who knows?

G