4... S1 wheel pilot instal questions

[Québec 1]

Question 1:
What kind of wire do I use to connect my NMEA from my Garmin GPS to my S1?


Question 2

How do I connect the ground to the switch . There are 3 pins on the switch :
a. pin 1 for negative,
b. pin 2 for the appliance
c. pin 3 for positive.
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b. I plan on connecting a red power cable from pin 2 on the switch to the (+ power) on the S1 computer,
c. I plan on connecting another red power cable from pin 3 on the switch through a fuse to the + on the battery
a. I now have a wire going from (- power) on the S1 computer but not sure where to put it ...seems to me it should go to the battery and then to the (-pin) on the switch....or something
What da ya say?


Question 3
I had one when I started writing this and now I've gone and forgotten it now that I'm retired and I only remember the day my pension check comes in!!!!
Q1

Now I remember
The wire from the motor on the wheel ends in 2 small female connections and there is another piece of wire that matches the motor wire with 2 large female connections on it.... Why?


Question 4
If what Leon says is right
Bertrand,
Correct. There is only one Seatlak port on the control head and it runs to the computer. Make sure you use both NMEA in +/- & out +/- running GPS to AP computer. Four wires total. This allows the AP to communicate wit the GPS for tracking plus the AP can send its compass reading back to the GPS, giving you heading data. Without that, your GPS will only give you course data (direction the boat is traveling) vs. heading data (direction the bow is pointing) It's great having both.


Leon

where do I connect my 4 wires to the display when there is only a 2 wire input on the display and a 4 wire in-out input on the S1 computer
?

[markh1f]

Québec 1
Q1 : I don't think NEMA is that sensitive, most any wire will do as long as it is insulated, very light gauge is fine.
Q2: Not sure I follow...
Q3: The other wire is suppose to be the power cord and some versions of the S1 computer have the matching connectors for both main power and the Wheeldrive.
Q4: The control head you have has 2 SeaTalk connector under the rubber plugs and they should have supplied a SeaTalk cable that will plug in there and go to the computer. The other is a spare to connect the remote or other instruments.

Good Luck,
Mark

[Matt19020]

My Install:

YOU CAN NOT GO ANY LOWER THEN THIS ..........CHECK BEFORE YOU DRILL


I used 1/2 spacer....If you could it would be better to use 3/4 to 1" to correct angle of rod (Epoxied & Drilled)


More pictures....
Reverse Rudder wires...
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[c130king]

Matt,

In your last pic looks like the cable coming in from the power distribution panel (or directly from the battery I guess depending on how you did it) has white, black, and green. Looks like you did nothing with the green? Can you explain that?

And for the RF Ground looks like you have a green wire and you labled "direct to neg. battery" by that do you mean that you ran that wire directly to the negative post on one of your batteries? Did that wire come with the system or did you have to buy it?

Still haven't seen my system yet...but hopefully soon...

UPDATE: I am in mourning... My 16-25 May trip back to work on my boat has to be cancelled. I have to go to Germany to play in a NATO Military Exercise so my leave has been revoked. Fortunately I bought trip insurance through Orbitz so hopefully I get fully refunded. Just looking at my Calendar don't think I can get back until late July at the earliest...and Dad has an offer on his house...oh well.

Cheers,
Jim

[Matt19020]

Jim you have a eye for detail...
That "Extra" green wire is just that.... I had a 3 wire cable in my garage so I used it from the the switch and neg bus bar in my console. I figured if I needed an extra wire running down to interior of boat it would already be there.
Some auto parts stores sell the "wire loom" However you can also pick up some bilge hose and slit it down the side. If none of that is available you can also get a clean looking install by just using wire ties every 6-8 inches.
http://www.mcmaster.com/#split-looms/=1p46t2
http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/Prod ... =wire+loom
As for the RF ground they did not supply that wire. That runs directly to the Neg on battery.
I hope this helps......

[Québec 1]

[quote="Québec 1"]Question 1:
What kind of wire do I use to connect my NMEA from my Garmin GPS to my S1?
Question 1 answer = any small covered wire will do! Thanks Matt

Question 2

How do I connect the ground to the switch . There are 3 pins on the switch :
a. pin 1 for negative,
b. pin 2 for the appliance
c. pin 3 for positive.
------------------------------

b. I plan on connecting a red power cable from pin 2 on the switch to the (+ power) on the S1 computer,
c. I plan on connecting another red power cable from pin 3 on the switch through a fuse to the + on the battery
a. I now have a wire going from (- power) on the S1 computer but not sure where to put it ...seems to me it should go to the battery and then to the (-pin) on the switch....or something
What da ya say?


Question 3
I had one when I started writing this and now I've gone and forgotten it now that I'm retired and I only remember the day my pension check comes in!!!!
Q1

Now I remember
The wire from the motor on the wheel ends in 2 small female connections and there is another piece of wire that matches the motor wire with 2 large female connections on it.... Why?

Question 3 answer = The connections on the wire for the motor on the wheel are for another set up. Just cut them off and connect wire to S1 Computor. The other short wire is for something else...(don't worry I'll figure it out)

Question 4
If what Leon says is right
Bertrand,
Correct. There is only one Seatlak port on the control head and it runs to the computer. Make sure you use both NMEA in +/- & out +/- running GPS to AP computer. Four wires total. This allows the AP to communicate wit the GPS for tracking plus the AP can send its compass reading back to the GPS, giving you heading data. Without that, your GPS will only give you course data (direction the boat is traveling) vs. heading data (direction the bow is pointing) It's great having both.
Leon

where do I connect my 4 wires to the display when there is only a 2 wire input on the display and a 4 wire in-out input on the S1 computer
?
Question 4 answer came to me when I woke up this morning... shows I'm a psychology major not an electrician...the answer is ..... 2 wires from the GPS go to the S1 computer in and 2 wires go from the out on the S1 computer to the NMEA connection on the S1 control panel. But Leon had already written that in his answer , I just missed it....Thanks Leon

[Matt19020]

ANSWER to Question 2=
If I understand you correctly you are having trouble with the switch wires...
The neg- wire to the switch is only used for the illumination of the switch any negative or ground wire should work.
The other 2 pins on your switch are used for a fused pos+ (in) and autopilot pos+ (out)
The neg- from autopilot should be run to a neg- ground. It could be the same as the switch neg- if needed

[c130king]

Sorry but I am still confused... (what's new)

What "switch" are you referring to in question #2?

Thanks,
Jim

[Québec 1]

If I understand correctly:
a.I have to wire the middle pole on the switch to (power +) on the computer;
b.I then wire the + pole on the switch through a fuse to the (battery +) ;
c. I then wire my - pole on the switch to the (battery -) pole on the same battery ;
d. I then wire the (power -) on the computer to the (battery -) pole on the same battery


I never let confusion get in the way of clear thinking before I act....It just takes longer that's all
Q1

[Matt19020]

Quebec you are correct
Jim that is a switch to power the autopilot which does not come with the system. Any fused switch will do.
Mine is located on the panel on port side of console....

[Québec 1]

Thank you everyone for your unquantified and expert advice. I will be connecting the battery to my S1autopilot within the next 48 hours because of your welcomed help.
In order to show my appreciation for your help I have donated 20$USD.....it's at lot more in Canadian money to the Mac Gregor sailors web site.

Merci Beaucoup!
Bertrand Jean Joseph Beaudry alias Q1

[c130king]

Jim that is a switch to power the autopilot which does not come with the system. Any fused switch will do.

My plan was to run the power cable from my new fuse panel inside the cabin (port side, where the original one was) to the S1 computer which will be on the port side back in the rear berth area.

Any of you experts see any issues with that?

Thanks,
Jim

[2BonC]

Matt,
for sure, You can go lower with the fluxvalve



Quebec, I have had very similar questions for different equipment. May be You find some answers in parallel.

http://www.macgregorsailors.com/forum/v ... =8&t=12996
Rainer

[Highlander]

Bertrand

I see you have the mast-up in your yard are you expecting the St. Law. to riase ! Does your A/P know it will be opperating only one rudder !
Give me a call @ Home I'll see what I can do "express delivery " Hmmmm, That otta be worth a good beer with a shot of Scotch for a chaser

J

[Québec 1]

Bertrand

I see you have the mast-up in your yard are you expecting the St. Law. to riase ! Does your A/P know it will be opperating only one rudder !
Give me a call @ Home I'll see what I can do "express delivery " Hmmmm, That otta be worth a good beer with a shot of Scotch for a chaser

J

If you can get the rudder down and a Force 10 Sea Chef BBQ - $118.99 SALE! $108.99 with support bar from Dowsar and supply the scotch. I'll supply the beer,the scotch and the steak. I"ll pay by internet on monday.
Q1