Water tank install? Inside water ballast tank

[vizwhiz]

Russ, do you have details of the pump? Sounds like a non-permanent solution, is that right?

[Stevenhigbee]

2) Once you get to your destination and draw water out, the boat will instantly become unstable. Simply sitting on one side will cause the ballast to all flow to that side and the boat will be flopping around. That may be okay, but my destinations are usually anchorages with waves.

OK, that is a problem. One could carry as many as 25 empty 6-gallon containers in the unused berth to fill upon arrival from the ballast tank, tie them up afloat around the boat, then promptly refill the ballast tank with salt water.

[Sumner]

2) Once you get to your destination and draw water out, the boat will instantly become unstable. Simply sitting on one side will cause the ballast to all flow to that side and the boat will be flopping around. That may be okay, but my destinations are usually anchorages with waves.

OK, that is a problem. One could carry as many as 25 empty 6-gallon containers in the unused berth to fill upon arrival from the ballast tank, tie them up afloat around the boat, then promptly refill the ballast tank with salt water.

Just curious....do you plan on going to 'one destination' and then spending some time there where you would have heavy water demand needs?

I have ...


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.... six 4 gallon containers and


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...two 7 gallon ones under the V-berth and then carry another two 4 gallon ones and a few 1 gallon jugs (transfer water to those). That is a total of 46 gallons of fresh water on board. With careful use that lasted the 2 of us up to a month for cooking, dish cleaning and the sponge baths but no showers. It gives you individual containers that can be taken ashore to be refilled and cleaned easily at the end of the trip and if for any reason one leaks or becomes contaminated (didn't happen so far), you have the others to use from.

Just a thought and good luck with whatever you decide to use,

Sumner

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[dlandersson]

Pretty slick.

[Russ]

Russ, do you have details of the pump? Sounds like a non-permanent solution, is that right?

My washdown pump is mounted inside the transom behind the aft berth. Wired to the panel.
I bought a hose to sacrifice for the project. I cut it in half and drilled 2 holes through the motor well leaving the male and female ends of the hose sticking out. The rubber hose then connects to the washdown pump below.

The male end that comes out of the motor well is the pressurized side where I connect a cheap coiled garden hose.
The female end is the input side where I have a short length of hose with a RV filter on the end. I toss this over when I want to use the pump (no thru hulls). The RV filter filters most of the junk from the water. It's not potable. but at least I'm filtering the intake to the pump and therefore the spray hose is fairly clean water.



Hose to spray deck and people down with.


This setup has the added benefit, that when I want to flush the system, I disconnect my intake hose and attach a garden hose to flush it all out.

--Russ

[Stevenhigbee]

Just curious....do you plan on going to 'one destination' and then spending some time there where you would have heavy water demand needs?

Yes, that's generally the way I travel. I like to find the perfect destination, and stay there as long as the beer and water hold out.

The less weight required for water, the more weight available for beer.

I've been inspired by your mods. Stretching the V-berth is the first one I copied. I like your idea for the head, except I want it outside in the cockpit.

[vizwhiz]

Russ, do you have a pic of the hose arrangement inside and the pump attachments? I really like your setup.

[Russ]

Russ, do you have a pic of the hose arrangement inside and the pump attachments? I really like your setup.

I'll see if I can find some. It's not complicated at all.

[BOAT]

Highlander says we should store all our fresh water as far forward down low in the bow as possible. It helps in the stability of the boat under sail and he says it also makes the bow cut through waves better. When I do the fresh water system on 'boat' I will be dividing up the water in five gallon containers for two reasons:
1. to avoid the ability for all the water to shift from port to starboard and visa versa
2. five gallons is about as much as I can carry
I will make carpeted square compartments for the individual 'tanks' to slide in and out of from above so I can distribute weight based on the amount of water on board. I think I can get about 15 to 20 gallons into the bow.
I do not think I would ever store fresh water in the ballast but I don't see any reason not to (unless you plan to drink the water, I would never drink water from the ballast tank).

[Sumner]

.....' I will be dividing up the water in five gallon containers for two reasons:
1. to avoid the ability for all the water to shift from port to starboard and visa versa
2. five gallons is about as much as I can carry
I will make carpeted square compartments for the individual 'tanks' to slide in and out of from above so I can distribute weight based on the amount of water on board. I think I can get about 15 to 20 gallons into the bow.

I found 5 gallons even much getting it in and out of a confined space and in and out of the bobbing dinghy. I really like the 4 gallon Reliance containers for that reason. I have 2 of the 7 gallon ones that I use but they stay in the boat unless they are empty and taken out for cleaning.

Under way I pump from the 4 gallons and the one 7 gallon....


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.... with a 12 volt pump into the 7 gallon that is connected to the sink. As you mentioned I can trim the boat out with them to some degree.

Once empty I can pull them out and take them ashore in the dinghy if needed for refilling. I have mine individually compartmentalized to some degree with no carpet and I don't think you need it, not at least with the containers I'm using. They all look fine to me. I think the carpet would be one more thing to get wet and would be slow to dry if it did.

I also use a hand pump at the sink to conserve water. I have an electric one in the teardrop and it is too easy to run a lot of water with it. If you can refill your tanks often then it wouldn't be a problem. One problem in Florida in some locations is finding places to go ashore for water and other supplies if you aren't using marinas,

Sumner

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[BOAT]

4 gallons huh? I trust you - I think I will do that instead of 5 gallon. Water gets really heavy and I'm not a strong as I used to be. If you think the carpet is not needed to protect the jugs then I guess I can skip that too - I was just worried about the jugs. I assumed to put the water hose down whatever jug I was using at the time but you put the pump on a different jug? Or do you have a pump on every jug?

[Sumner]

4 gallons huh? I trust you - I think I will do that instead of 5 gallon. Water gets really heavy and I'm not a strong as I used to be. If you think the carpet is not needed to protect the jugs then I guess I can skip that too - I was just worried about the jugs. I assumed to put the water hose down whatever jug I was using at the time but you put the pump on a different jug? Or do you have a pump on every jug?

The 7 gallon above is always....



.... connected to the sink. Then using the 12 volt pump seen next to it.....



.... I pump water from any of the other tanks into the 7 gallon one. I usually at the same time fill u a couple 1 gallon water jugs that I can pour out of if needed. I drop the pump's intake hose into a tank and put the output into the 7 gallon tank.

Some Walmarts carry the 7 gallon tanks and possibly the 4 gallon ones but I've ordered them on line. They aren't cheap, but well made and don't leak. They are also stackable and I do that at home when empty and after cleaning after a trip. If you compare the price of say 5 of them to a single tank that size I think the price is comparable and being able to take them ashore, clean them and use separately from them I feel has greater benefits. I looked at fixed tanks and flexible tanks and I'm very happy with this solution as I feel it is the most flexible option,

You can find a lot more about it by going down this menu page on my site....

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Sumner

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