Singlehanding Dangerous???

A forum for discussion of how to rig and tune your boat or kicker to achieve the best sailing performance.

Moderators: Catigale, Paul S, Heath_Mod, beene, Hamin' X, kmclemore, tangentair

User avatar
Beam's Reach
First Officer
Posts: 310
Joined: Sun Feb 27, 2005 4:25 pm
Location: North Bay, Ontario, Canada 97X, 50HP Mariner 4 Stroke

Post by Beam's Reach » Thu Jul 26, 2007 8:46 am

I'm with Sloop too. Single handed sailing is the easy part....it's single handed docking that gets me worked up.

After a nice relaxing afternoon of sailing, my stomach starts tightening up as I head back to the marina knowing I have to dock.

The real problem is that the first year we were in the marina there was always another boater waiting on my pier to grab a line as I came in. Now that I've been there a couple of years, they assume I don't need help and just watch from their boats. It feels good that they have such confidence in me....I just wish I had as much! Even if you don't really need the help, it's nice to have it there just in case.

A windward slip really does help too.

User avatar
Catigale
Site Admin
Posts: 10363
Joined: Fri Jun 11, 2004 7:59 pm
Sailboat: MacGregor 26X
Location: Admiral .............Catigale 2002X.......Lots of Harpoon Hobie 16 Skiffs....Island 17
Contact:

Post by Catigale » Thu Jul 26, 2007 9:31 am

It is always nice to see an able pair of hands awaiting on your return, regardless of conditions. I returned from sailing in SFO with a company colleague - a Kiwi with a vast sailing experience that swamped mine, having just learned back and fill

I turned out of our dock and :wink: accidentally turned the wrong way into a dead end dock about 30 feet wide and said...Ooops, we have to turn around.....Admiral was impressed as I spun the boat on its length on the centreboard. Tony, the marina owner, saw me later and said 'thats the last time I help you dock" with a smile... :wink:

User avatar
beene
Site Admin
Posts: 2536
Joined: Tue Sep 19, 2006 7:31 pm
Sailboat: MacGregor 26M
Location: Ontario Canada, '07 26M, Merc 75 4s PEGASUS

Post by beene » Thu Jul 26, 2007 2:51 pm

Show off.... :P

G

User avatar
Jim Cate
Engineer
Posts: 151
Joined: Sat May 08, 2004 9:21 am
Location: Houston

Post by Jim Cate » Thu Jul 26, 2007 11:19 pm

I often sail single-handed, and I agree with nearly all of the previous comments. - I have lines led aft, autopilot, GPS/chartreader, sail slugs, etc., and they all help. I also think that a bimini or other form of sun protection is more important for single-handed sailing in hot sunny weather, because you may be at the wheel for long periods of time.

In addition to experience, know-how, and good training, as a practical matter, I find that the most helpful tool for single-handed sailing is a good autopilot. It permits you to: keep the boat oriented while raising, lowering, or adjusting sails; go forward while under sail (which may become necessary for any of several reasons); go below; etc. (Granted that these are all possible without an AP under some conditions, under other conditions they can become more difficult.) It's also fun to be able to sit on the deck while under sail and watch the boat cut through the water (in moderate weather conditions, taking proper safety precautions) rather than always being restricted to a position near the helm. An autopilot is quicker and more convenient than heaving to, IMO, which of course doesn't help much under conditions such as raising sails, drifting toward shallow water, etc.

Jim

User avatar
Catigale
Site Admin
Posts: 10363
Joined: Fri Jun 11, 2004 7:59 pm
Sailboat: MacGregor 26X
Location: Admiral .............Catigale 2002X.......Lots of Harpoon Hobie 16 Skiffs....Island 17
Contact:

Post by Catigale » Fri Jul 27, 2007 5:52 am

I have an AP mod planned but when singlehanding if you trim until the boat is balanced you can tie off the helm and go forward for at least 2 minutes without helm correction being needed in my experience.,

WARNING - with the helm tied and being alone you should tether off on a short leash if you are on open water!!!!

User avatar
tangentair
Admiral
Posts: 1234
Joined: Mon Jan 22, 2007 2:59 pm
Sailboat: MacGregor 26M
Location: Highland Park, IL ...07M...Merc 50 BF...Mila K

Post by tangentair » Fri Jul 27, 2007 6:51 am

WARNING - with the helm tied and being alone you should tether off on a short leash if you are on open water!!!!
I have never had a reason or seen a safe need for a long lead. IMHO

James V
Admiral
Posts: 1705
Joined: Sat Jan 22, 2005 12:33 pm
Sailboat: MacGregor 26M
Location: Key West, Fl USA, 26M 06, Merc 50hp BF "LYNX"

Post by James V » Fri Jul 27, 2007 7:52 am

When single handing you need to go below for whatever and need to go to the mast. Inorder to not untie yourself, a long lead is wanted for myself. I just tie a 50 foot dockline to the mast and to my harness.

It is best that you do not go to the bow. I know that my fordeck with all the salt spray dried on it is a dangerous place under way.

K9Kampers
Admiral
Posts: 2345
Joined: Thu Apr 13, 2006 9:32 am
Sailboat: MacGregor 26X
Location: NH, 2001 MacGregor X - Tohatsu 50 / 2013 Ford F150

Post by K9Kampers » Fri Jul 27, 2007 12:34 pm

I do a lot of single-handing and in some conditions have been able to go hands off and sit back in the cockpit, or sometimes jsut keep a toe on the wheel. Once, on a slow downwind breeze, I was hands off for about 1 1/2 hours - cooking dinner down below & eating topside - always keeping a lookout tho. Being able to jump down to the head at times is helpful, but I also keep a tin cup in the cockpit for when I can't let go of the wheel, such as last weekend on the Maine coast!

eric3a

Post by eric3a » Fri Jul 27, 2007 1:03 pm

..
Last edited by eric3a on Tue Mar 11, 2008 9:12 pm, edited 1 time in total.

K9Kampers
Admiral
Posts: 2345
Joined: Thu Apr 13, 2006 9:32 am
Sailboat: MacGregor 26X
Location: NH, 2001 MacGregor X - Tohatsu 50 / 2013 Ford F150

Post by K9Kampers » Fri Jul 27, 2007 1:24 pm

The whole deck layout isn't very sailor friendly, and the slippery cabin sides on the foredeck
I agree with you there Eric.

While sailing, I was showing the Admiral the value of a whisker pole by standing at the mast and holding the boat hook between the mast & genny. After about 15 minutes, she asked me to go out to the bow to check the anchor locker. "NO WAY - TOO ROUGH" says I. I think she was trying to get rid of me and keep the boat for herself!
Came up thru the bow hatch to check the locker.

User avatar
Scott
Admiral
Posts: 1654
Joined: Tue May 18, 2004 2:46 pm
Sailboat: Venture 25
Location: 1978 Catalina 22 with all the Racing Goodies!! 4 horse fire breathing monster on the transom

Post by Scott » Sat Jul 28, 2007 9:43 am

Image

Eric, this is downright creepy.

Get a real avatar like mine.

User avatar
Shane
First Officer
Posts: 200
Joined: Tue Oct 03, 2006 7:06 pm
Location: Langley, BC ......."Best O' Both"...... '07 26M w/70 hp Suzuki
Contact:

Post by Shane » Sat Jul 28, 2007 10:33 am

I don't know... With such a striking resemblance, I thought it was just an update of yours Scott. With a haircut, of course. :wink:

Kidding. Really.
Shane
Scott wrote:Image

Eric, this is downright creepy.

Get a real avatar like mine.

eric3a

Post by eric3a » Sat Jul 28, 2007 10:57 am

..
Last edited by eric3a on Tue Mar 11, 2008 9:13 pm, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
Ivan Awfulitch
First Officer
Posts: 240
Joined: Tue May 15, 2007 7:03 pm
Sailboat: MacGregor 26X
Location: Akron, OH - Docked at Catawba Island, OH

Post by Ivan Awfulitch » Sat Jul 28, 2007 9:43 pm

Sloop John B wrote:I don't single hand because it gets so lonely out there.

Also, I have a problem coming in pier side. It's nice to assume someone might be around to help but if there isn't...

Often I might have dropped into the dock if I hadn't had the Mate along (for you non-nautical types, the 'dock' is the hole in the water your boat is tied up in; the pier, whether it's a 2x6 piece of wood or an East Coast highway that runs a quarter mile out into the ocean, is a pier).
I have to agree, the sailing is the easy part, but docking is another story. I think maybe one of these might be handy if they weren't so expensive.

http://www.sideshift.com/BoatType/SS230.pdf

User avatar
MarcD
Posts: 9
Joined: Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:57 pm
Location: "RAY-LEE-JOY"2004 M26 Honda 50 Slave Lake AB.ca

Post by MarcD » Tue Jul 31, 2007 3:23 pm

I have sailed my M26 for four seasons now and about 90% of the time it has been on my own. I wear a regulated life vest with a lanyard, which i clip on to the life lines when I go forward. And as previously stated I stay off the lake during rough weather, unless I want to show a friend how well the MAc can sail sideways without a sail up :o

Post Reply