1st Sail wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27, 2019 7:53 am
I am curious if you dare remove the existing sole and then insert a T&H sole for access to the bilge area between the ribs. I would like to add a flexible water bladder under the cabin sole. It would be the lowest point in the hull and centered. That would keep weight out of the stern. ????
rsementi wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:09 pm
Do you have any more photos of the head where you increased the floor footprint? I wanted to see if I could make the M26M head into a wet bath and your photos may help.
Okay, let me try to tackle this one at a time.
First off, MOB!!! man overboard drill here guys - anyone who knows me knows I strive to keep 'boat' as factory stock as possible in regards to important design aspects like hull shape and rigging and interior liners. I would NEVER cut up the liner that extensively because there is a lot of structural ribbing under there. Let's not go overboard. On that head floor the main structural components are NOT the top of the shelf (in fact it's so thin you can push on it and it bends.) The main structural elements are those curved edges where the shelf meets the liner. I built a mahogany box that is bolted right into those elements in the curve of the step there - that's why I preserved the ends of the step - the fiberglass there is almost 1/4 of an inch thick!! The carpet is hiding the huge bolts that attach a 3/4 inch solid mahogany box that hangs from those edges. There are ZERO structural elements under the step - it's a complete pass thru designed that way to store long items like spreaders, pole, and spars.
As for the main cabin sole: Under that sole is a network of ribs glassed on to the ballast tank making inserting anything larger than a sandwich baggie near impossible. That is no place for a bladder.
So, now the other question: a “wet room”.
The X boat is much better suited for a "wet" room. If you want a true wet room buy an X boat. As for the M boat a "wet" room is there, but it's hiding in the factory design. In this picture I am standing in a pretty roomy shower with full height headroom:
Believe it or not, the M boat already comes from the factory with a hidden "wet room" - it's already designed:
The entire main cabin sole is designed like a bathtub to drain into a hole at the back of the sole near the batteries. The lowest place to put a sump is under the batteries - but that leaves no room for batteries so the next best place is right next to batteries under here:
If your trying to figure out where that is here is another picture - that brown panel hides the stuff you saw in the other pic. This is storage of the shower pan / bathtub -
actually you really don't need a shower pan because the floor is already a well designed bath tub that you can drain into a sump using the hole near the batteries but I had to make a pan - why?
SO, how would you do a “wet room” with teak and holly floors?
Well, that's easy - just remove the teak and holly floor and throw it under the aft berth mattress!
Here I just threw it on top of the bed but it can fit under the mattress or on top - or even on it's side.
There is more but I may be boring you with blah blah blah.
So, need I go on?