Has anyone used the classified adds on this.....site??

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waternwaves
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Has anyone used the classified adds on this.....site??

Post by waternwaves »

Cruising through the classified in here seems to not have a lot of offerings. Has anyone had success selling Mac hardware, dodgers, zip doors, electronics, etc.. here or does Ebay look to be more sucessful, I have a few unused rarely used items to part with here..

I think I would prefer to sell here in the forum.... but not much seems to be moving here..??, as well as looking to maybe sell a transom mod here..
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NYharleyrider
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Post by NYharleyrider »

please contact me through email with your phone number.
I'm setting up my first Mac (2005 M) and may be interested in some items you have.

Thanks, Brian.
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mike
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Post by mike »

If it were something Mac-specific, I'd sell it here. But for other stuff, it's hard to beat the massive reach of ebay.

--Mike
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Post by Frank C »

Oversized engines and transom reinforcement were discussed in this thread. It occurs to me that design is only 10% of the transom solution, while implementation is 90% so I'm not sure how one could "sell" that solution widely.

Though I'm uncertain how a "device" can meet that need, it would be futile to try to sell such an item widely anywhere except this forum. Classified seems the wrong approach to me - it seems a banner would be needed, like Ozzie Bob's interior parts. Following is some of the discussion about the transom and heavier motors.
Frank C wrote: . . . My 2000-26X with Suzuki DF60 is now in its fifth season. When I asked my Mac dealer to upsize to a (Suzuki) 60 hp, he told me the same thing ... that the transom is amply designed, but that the manufacturer might not warrant it. He discussed it with Roger Macgregor, and they refused to warrant my hull with a 60hp. However, they did express the same opinion, that the transom is not at risk. . . .

My Mac dealer insisted on stabilizing the transom, spanning it inside with a heavy aluminum channel, sized ~like a 2x3 stud. This reinforcing channel carries the lower motor bolts and the rudder mounting bolts. Scattered owners had installed the Suzuki 70 with no reinforcement, before I chose Suzuki's de-tuned DF60 version. Both models weigh 335#. (It seemed to me that Mark's problem on his 115hp was installation-related, not inate to the transom).

MY EXPERIENCE
My motoring performance was 24 mph at 5000 rpms in light ripple when new (GPS). As the boat aged, WOT has dropped to 20 or 21 mph. I could probably add 2 mph by re-pitching, since max rpms should be 5600. However, I rarely run the boat above cruising speed, about 16 mph @ 3,800-4,000, so WOT is not an objective.

My 3 personal best days under sail were close reaching at 8+ mph and kissing 9 mph (7+ knots) in 20 knot winds, by GPS. This required lots of practice and additional trimming and sail controls, but nothing special regarding the motor. The transom exhibits no signs of abnormal stress.

RISKS
. . . ballast tank is seamed to the hull, and the factory expressed the opinion that this "could be" at risk by overpowering. Using a more powerful motor to push the boat through heavy chop could quite obviously stress those seams, especially with ballast full. As described, I rarely run WOT, and scrupulously avoid high speeds in heavy chop . . . besides being uncomfortable, I hate to punish my boat that way. I rarely motor with ballast full, never motor at speed with ballast. Only one time did I have 5 aboard, and rarely have more than 3.

BEYOND
I think Billy chose to go with his 140 after hearing my experience was so benign. I also referred him to two others with Suzuki 70s. I would not hesitate to follow his and Mark's path with the next larger Suzuki at 400+ pounds. Billy's 140hp is only another 75# more than my 60hp, and I believe the the fuel economy difference is trivial.
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