yawing at anchor

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Re: yawing at anchor

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Hi Everyone

We found our Macgregor 26X like other high decked boats are terrible on anchor, always dancing around like crazy.
We have found that this helps. We use a short strop about a metre long with bail clip each end & a rubber shock snubber on the line. We put a loop in the anchor rode, clip the strop to that, then clip to the trailer hitch below the bow and back off the anchor line so that the load is taken on the trailer hitch.
The trailer hitch being much lower than the bow cleats seems to help with the balance of the boat.
We also use this on our mooring.
Hope it helps.
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Re: yawing at anchor

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Lucky Drifter wrote:Hi Everyone

We found our Macgregor 26X like other high decked boats are terrible on anchor, always dancing around like crazy.
We have found that this helps. We use a short strop about a metre long with bail clip each end & a rubber shock snubber on the line. We put a loop in the anchor rode, clip the strop to that, then clip to the trailer hitch below the bow and back off the anchor line so that the load is taken on the trailer hitch.
The trailer hitch being much lower than the bow cleats seems to help with the balance of the boat.
We also use this on our mooring.
Hope it helps.
Lenny
It's all a bit ultra-nautical for me, but am I to understand that the snubber's short strops' bail clips are somehow laid out askew on the treadle?
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Re: yawing at anchor

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Ty next time i go out i will try that....i already have one of those shock absorbers west marine sells so this would be an easy fix...ty
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Re: yawing at anchor

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We cleat off on the bow but drop a heavy mushroom off the stern to damp the swinging. We reduce the dance angle from about 100 degrees of arc to about 35-40, which is fine. In very light winds we pull it back up to let the boat seeing into the breeze to keep the cabin ventilated, but it's a cinch to deploy from stern
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Re: yawing at anchor

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I have seen a few people say the tie the anchor rode to the bow eye to help reduce anchor swing. How are you doing this?
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Re: yawing at anchor

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I'd be curious to know the physics behind that. I'm not seeing a difference in moving the attachment down a couple of feet, at least not from way over here. But then, I've never tried it. :|
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I think that it helps because the strop lowers the point of pull from the anchor to the boat
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fouz wrote:I have seen a few people say the tie the anchor rode to the bow eye to help reduce anchor swing. How are you doing this?
If you go nautical on this concept it's called a Kellet, sentinel, chum, buddy, Angle, or ruder depending on where I the world you are.

I think Kellet is most popular round these parts
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Re: yawing at anchor

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Catigale wrote:
fouz wrote:I have seen a few people say the tie the anchor rode to the bow eye to help reduce anchor swing. How are you doing this?
If you go nautical on this concept it's called a Kellet, sentinel, chum, buddy, Angle, or ruder depending on where I the world you are.

I think Kellet is most popular round these parts
You can now add “Bow Eye” to that list, but the reason for a Kellet, etc. is for reducing the angle of the rode so as to lessen probability of a dragging anchor. I am skeptical of this reducing anchor swing.

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May be due to the rode causing heel which could change the aerodynamic/hydrodynamic attitude, causing steerage (surfboard sort of thing).

Or, maybe after you lean over the bow in the middle of the night to tie the rode to the trailer eye in a gale, you just really want to believe that it helped!
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Jimmyt wrote:Or, maybe after you lean over the bow in the middle of the night to tie the rode to the trailer eye in a gale, you just really want to believe that it helped!
:D :D :D :D :D
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Re: yawing at anchor

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Tomfoolery wrote:
Jimmyt wrote:Or, maybe after you lean over the bow in the middle of the night to tie the rode to the trailer eye in a gale, you just really want to believe that it helped!
:D :D :D :D :D
+ 1. :) Ron.
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Re: yawing at anchor

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NiceAft wrote:
Catigale wrote:
fouz wrote:I have seen a few people say the tie the anchor rode to the bow eye to help reduce anchor swing. How are you doing this?
If you go nautical on this concept it's called a Kellet, sentinel, chum, buddy, Angle, or ruder depending on where I the world you are.

I think Kellet is most popular round these parts
You can now add “Bow Eye” to that list, but the reason for a Kellet, etc. is for reducing the angle of the rode so as to lessen probability of a dragging anchor. I am skeptical of this reducing anchor swing.

Ray
Don't have to add it to the list, as a kettle or anchor buddy has nothing to do with the question.
Opie on page one said he runs the rode thru the bow eye. He's not by himself. I have seen four or five people say they do this and I just can't see how they are doing this without great difficulty.
And I'd like to learn something rather then assume there is no other way.
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Re: yawing at anchor

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This article shows one way it's done. http://www.woodenboat.com/whiskey_plank ... -and-rodes

See third pic
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Re: yawing at anchor

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That article is typical " I'm a cruiser so my way is the right way" garbage that permeates this sport.

Every cruiser should carry three anchors......right.
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