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Well, another option added to my plethora of adaptable situations! I just nabbed a used Stearns IK-140 inflatable kayak that I intend to keep on the boat at all times. I have two hard shell yaks, but it can be a hassle to bring them on every adventure, along with three different inflatable dinks I use at different times, depending on the circumstance. I have a 14' Necky Dolphin, and a 16' Ocean Kayak Cabo. Sit-On-Tops, that are towed at various times! As I said, I never put primary dinks in the boat, I tow them, but this one will be stowed as it really has a small deflated footprint!

Positives so far, is it can be manually inflated and deployed in less than 10 minutes. ( double action hand pump ) I can also use my power inflator and had that puppy in the briney in less than 30 seconds from the time I unfolded it!

That's the good news. The bad is it simply is too small! It has a capacity for 500 LBS. That's stretching the envelope a bit if ya ask me, but spacewise, with two yakers, the thing is crammed. It wouldn't be the best choice for tender duties at let's say Catalina, but could fetch fresh water and supplies if needed with one paddler. Gas would be of concern also, as it may not be chemically compatable with petrol products!

Anyway, it does well, tracks pretty good, a bit wet ALL the time, but newer versions are supposedly self bailing. I have tried a few Inflatable yaks, and this one seemed to fit the bill for what I want it for....as a backup!

Also, it will be good for snorkeling when we go to far off places by airliner, but SCUBA is out of the question, unless we had two of them!

I was fortunate enough to see an ad and picked it up for $180.00! It was used very little, and came with at least $120.00 in accessories! Just wanted to pass on what can be used on our boats effectively!

The Porta-Bote idea sounds interesting also......let's see, gotta go check the used one's that was only used a few times! :wink: Nah....the admiral thinks we have way too many boats now.... I say, I can never have enough.....she's considering the 65' Mac idea....got my fingers crossed! :D

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Hey Guys,

If you are into kayaks check some of these out. Very Macish in that alot of hardshell paddlers kind of pooh pooh them. But just like the Mac they perform as advertised. We have the Helios 2 person model. The rudder is a must for tracking control. Other than that it is every bit as stable and fast as a hardshell.

http://www.innovakayak.com/welcome.htm

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We have had plenty of fun for low cost with the sevlor 2 man Kayak. Just be sure to buy the optional skeg. It keeps it going straight while paddling.
It fits in a duffle bag in a storage compartment and only weighs 25lbs.

http://www.sevylor.com/canoes_3.html
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Post by kmclemore »

Well, it isn't inflatable so this is kind off-topic, but I've been dying to try one of these Hobie Kayaks.
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Post by waternwaves »

Theo,

Having paddled and compared.....

I would change your
Other than that it is every bit as stable and fast as a hardshell.
to

more stable and not as fast.... there is considerably more drag to inflatable. tho for an inflatable...it is one of the more efficient of that genre
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waternwaves- I have to say, the Stearns inflatable is extremely good in a few counts after our own comparo over the weekend. We took it out on Saturday, and did the day fully in tandem with myself and the admiral. She was all ga ga over it! Initial and secondary stability was awsome, my 220 lbs could easily stand up in the thing, without feeling overly tippy. Barb really liked it a lot! The biggest drawback was lack of storage, With the external cover on it, I see no reason why we can't beach this puppy anywhere without fear of abrasion punctures. The bottom has a fairly thick tarpaulin material that looks pretty durable also, and the tracking fin does help. It does have leeway on each stroke, more so than any hard shell, but not bad!

So Sunday we go out, and she takes the Necky Dolphin hard shell, for the day. This Kayak is rated as one of the fastest SOT's on the market (albeit discontinued) and with her lack of upper body strength, leveled the playing field, and I easily stayed up with her all day! Then she took the Stearns inflatable for about an hour toward the end of the day, I took the Ocean Kayak Cabo. Now this is a 16', tandem hardshell SOT, with 600 lb carrying capability. In all fairness here, we both were thrashed from a full day of yaking, but I did outpace her the whole way with this yak! It is known as as one of the fastest tandems also.

Another thing we found was to have longer paddles with the inflatable as the geometry is a bit different then the hardshell, shorter was better for them. We have three lengths and can configure them at various lengths because they are take apart types. We have 2 sets of Bending Branches Whispers, and 2 sets of Rogue River paddles. The Rogue River's are slightly longer, and worked better in the inflatable.

As I said, the inflatable yak has it's place, and that's in the Mac X, all the time, deflated and easily inflated for some duties. The SOT's may still get dragged when we do the Channel Islands as a close-in dive platform for underwater caves/shear cliff areas, where I wouldn't take the Mac at anchor due to deep bottom, or treacherous wave action, yaks win out there, even over our inflatable dinghy's. I have a 10' Avon, and a 14' Zodiac, and they are good, but Yaks have their place also!
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Kevin, I gotta admit the Hobie yak is a great innovation! But we do not see where it would suit us fully! It can be leg powered, or arm powered equally well. Unfortunately boat bucks, won't stretch that far yet!!! They are expensive, but probably worth every penny also. Not much storage either, a drawback for us! I'd pay maybe $600.00 for a tandem, if a used one came on the market...possibly?

They rent them at a place on the water in Oceanside Harbor, and we may do that for an eval some time. The major drawback for us is that our primary duty of a hardback yak is a SCUBA platform. After diving, leg muscles are worked pretty good, so upper body propulsion makes more sense, as to give the legs a break! We see people using them, and they look like a lot of fun, for sure!

There is a gent who in his 70's yaked to and from Oceanside to Catalina a couple of years back solo, and no chase vessel as far as I have been told, and it was an easy trip for him! I never saw anything in print about it, but Hobie sponsored it I believe, but never capitalized on this feat, as far as I know? This is a distance of well over 100 miles, so it's notable!

Hobie is a local company here in Oceanside also, and we have seen them evaluating a scooter looking device that is propelled by jumping up and down on it, you move forward. It doesn't have much appeal for us, as when you stop hopping like a bunny, you get totally wet.....over you go!

The engineers were interesting to talk to, and this company has many innovations in water toys for sure. I have tried a Hobie 16' cat before and while being fun....uhh, I like a head/galley/comfortable sleeping arraingements....thank you very much! I have seen many beached on Catalina, and people bring tents and sleeping bags. If I was younger, maybe this would have appeal.....but I have way too many boats now! :D
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extruded, Composite,,inflatable and skin boats....

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Tom
I am not dissing Blow and go boats......

I have had many and still have them now.... and paddled more than I own..

the purpose of my comment was to provide accurate information about that particular boat.

and in general provide info to the consumer shoping for tenders/dinks/toys which is useful and accurate.

I am glad you enjoy the necky's I have had several and currently still carry a plastic looksha on my mac deck when I go out.. and I love the nootka outfitter I had.....as well as the glass looksha, amaruk, and lookshaIII... (tho I am way to big to comfortably paddle a <23" wide boat anymore.....preferring to stick to Eskia over the Elaho HV ,,,my shoulders are wider than 23" and boats narrower than my shoulders make for a very rolling ride....lol)

Most inflatables excell at form stability. and I just wanted the info out about the relative drag between the families of boats...... I have actually measured the drag of mulitple kayaks loaded with similar weights, at various speeds......4 at a time..... as well as paddled with those that felt their custom electronicly welded inflatables... (manufacturer/rep to remain nameless here for their own blustery protections) And I have towed others in inflatables with my glass and poly boats when conditions....rivers. tides etc.....are too great for those operators to make headway....towing an inflatable against a 4-5 kt flow is REAL work. even when the user is paddling like hull to lessen the drag.

As far as secondary stability with inflatables...most are not hard chined....The featherlight and klepper framed hybrids come to mind as exceptions.... (or hard anything for that matter,...lol). but it is difficult to get much of a lean on an inflatable and keep a good form...due to the deformation of the bouyancy tubes..

For me... I can not imagine now taking my mac out without some form of an inflatable., (but the fold a boat photos of the diver re-entering over the bow were impressive....tho I cant imagine doing that myself.lol) but that is because I also use it as my emergency life raft also.....

and I greatly enjoy the stability of the inflatables...especially when I am diving., and the stearns are great boats for the money...!!

as well as the airdesigns...... The innova are spendy.

And yes I know that Seaker inflatable tandem kayak has been now clocked at 7.5 mph... and 6 mph for the solo, but for $ 2400 I can get two poly boats that are almost indestructable....heheh.... (necessary for a guy that lives and paddles around a place called rocky point......)

and I have participated in team racing with nootkas that easily exceeded that for a mile

and nor is that as fast as my best in a poly kayak..... And I know I am not the worlds fasted inflatable paddler....lol

just wanting to keep things in perspective....
JMHO
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waternwaves- And that you did, rather well, I might add! Yes, I have another boat actually, from the manufacturer you allude to. Welded seams can be well, let's just say...deficient, yea, that's it...deficient! :wink:

Even the Stearns is welded, but I thought I'd give it a try, as it supposedly can be paddled at rated hull weight of #500 lbs, with one of the outer tubes deflated. Hmmm, gotta try that actually! The nylon sheath is what allowed me to consider it! I, like you, prefer hardbacks, but ONLY wanted this as a backup anyway.

Besides, I am trying to talk the Admiral into a trip to Mono Lake to see the moonscape like appearance and get some great shots. And then when we hop over to Hawaii, or Fla., it might come in handy. Flexability (pun intended) is the goal here! Sometimes, tanks are not neccasary, and snorkeling is just fine!

Thanks for your input, it's always appreciated, you have much insight to what you post!
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full moonscapes..............

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Tom
Sounds like a great planned trip.......
And with full moon tonight..........heheheheh

ahhhhh midnight kayaking.....
those are the nights........
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waternwaves- Well, it will be a weekend trip for sure, as it's a couple of hundred miles for us to go to! Close to Yosemite, those not familiar, this lake is known for it's Tofa formations that make it appear like moonscape.

I last saw the lake in the early 1980's, and it's current level is higher now, so less formations are visable, back then it was really a sight to behold! Unfortunately the water diverted from it was used to feed water to us SoCal people, and caused the salinity to rise, and affected the delicate ecosystem that was abundant in the lake.

To my knowledge, this lake is the only one like it in the world with Tofa formations and what not. I see the temps are still in the low 40's at night (high desert) so maybe we will wait a month to go!

Check this site out! http://www.yosemitegold.com/yosemite/mono.html
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Yesterday I looked at WM's brand 2-person inflatable kayak, sale-reduced by a hundred. It has a canvas-covered bottom, looks pretty nice for $299. The Stearns doubles seem to sell for $400 to $500. Is a 2-person inflatable still easy to handle by one person?

They also have a WalkerBay 8-footer in the Oakland bargain store for $450, they'd probably sell for less. The stb aft quarter rail is split, looks like it fell onto that corner. But that's a big, heavy, hard dinghy for hefting aboard a Mac.

Just seems to me that a blo-kayak & couple of paddles are a better choice for a Mac??
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Well, having spent most of the day yesterday out in the Briney, and at times by myself, I am really getting to like the inflatable alot more. Yes, I do take it out by myself, and even brought a few of the ladies in our group back by towing them back in. They were Kayaking for the first time, and got real tired. I carry parachute chord on all yaks for towing if needed.....so I got to use that for the first time yesterday!

One thing for sure is that every tandem I have ever used (rented) in the past, was easily handled by one person. I don't think I'd buy another solo again! I'd consider it for white water, but no, we don't have many class v swift water around these parts! :D

Gonna go out today also! I find it to be the best upper body, low impact exercize in the world! (next to swimming of course) The nice thing is that you can stop reflect/rest for awile, and be on your way. I had a recent surgery in which the it appears one of the three surgeons leaned on my elbow, and it has been numb from my elbow to my finger tips, so I am doing this as forced therapy, so it does not atropy. I can notice much more power out of my good arm, so it forces me to work it. I NEVER give up....I'm a fighter, and a trained one too! :x :P
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