Origo stove caution

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Oh yea don’t use acetone in these stoves either, I did by mistake, it it soots up the bottoms of the cookware.

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I have a useless education in biologicals chemistry of the brain because of my BS in Behavioral Science. (Waste of time) Acetone is a KETONE. Not really a carbon like the TANES of butane and propane and such but it is organic like ethanol alcohol so it can be mixed with water. The acetone chain is the most simple of KETONES but still way more complex than ethanol - Acetone will work, but just stick with ethanol. (Why do I even remember this stuff???)

Don't eat crow - we all knew what you were talking about - gasoline and fuels the whole fire extinguisher thing and what goes on an electrical fire and what goes on this and that.

There is a rule we all learned: NEVER throw water on ANY kind of kitchen fire - and for good reason. I still remember the time my sister threw water on a grease fire in the kitchen when we were kids - the resulting inferno almost burned the house down.

Your instincts were correct.
It's an awful lot of rules to try to remember. Alcohol is counter intuitive.

Just remember that they put alcohol (ethanol) in gasoline to protect your system from water and it will make more sense,

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Boat: Just remember that they put alcohol (ethanol) in gasoline to protect your system from water and it will make more sense,

I'm not sure what you mean about this? The best way to protect your system from water is to use non-ethanol gas.
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He's referring to the "gas drying" products you can get in your friendly neighborhood automotive store to treat your gasoline if you suspect that there is water in the tank. The water in the tank will be absorbed by the alcohol and which would allow it to mix (better) with the gasoline and be burned in the engine. It can beat draining the tank to remove the water.

Now that almost all gasoline has alcohol added to it as a matter of course we have the problem of water vapor in the tank introducing water to the ethanol mixed gasoline sometimes causing the problem that the previous product was trying to eliminate.
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mallardjusted wrote: Wed Dec 28, 2022 8:52 am Boat: Just remember that they put alcohol (ethanol) in gasoline to protect your system from water and it will make more sense,

I'm not sure what you mean about this? The best way to protect your system from water is to use non-ethanol gas.
Yeah, captain free kind of covered this but I was talking about my time working with internal combustion engines which was way back in the 70's - we would encounter water in our gas tank and to get it out we would pour alcohol into the tank and then take the car on a very long drive because the alcohol would absorb the water and burn it off as steam in the engine.

You really don't want to run alcohol ALL THE TIME through the engine of a 1979 Ford Econoline van or a 65 Mustang with a 289 V8 because those motors are not built to process a lot of steam through the combustion over a long period of time.

New cars can run some ethanol and can process the extra moisture (how I have no idea) but for the most part it seems to me that ethanol would be bad for engines because ethanol absorbs water and introduces water into the engine. Maybe the other guys can explain why new motors can burn ethanol.
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Boat,

We've always known it was possible to burn alcohol in a car engine. It's just that until recently we've all agreed it was not a good idea. :wink:
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Rec90 gas for the win.
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Ixneigh wrote: Mon Jan 02, 2023 7:24 am Rec90 gas for the win.
Is that what they call it in the Keys? Around here it just called "boat gas". :wink:
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It sounds like there may have been an issue with the stove's valve or burner assembly that caused the flames to continue burning even when the knob was turned off. Dousing the stove with water was a good way to put out the flames and make the stove safe, but it's not a recommended method of shutting down a stove, as it can cause damage to the stove's components and may create a safety hazard. It's possible that the stove's metal has warped or become damaged from the high heat, which could have led to the malfunction.

It may be a good idea to have the stove inspected and repaired by a qualified technician to determine the cause of the problem and to make sure it is safe to use again. If the stove is not repairable or you don't feel safe using it again, it may be time to consider purchasing a new stove. You could look into a copper stove or other types of stove that are made from heat-resistant materials and have a good track record for safety and durability.

As for the corn salad recipes, you may want to consider preparing them in advance or using alternative cooking methods such as using a microwave or a portable stove. You could also consider using a crockpot or an electric skillet to cook your dishes. This way you can prepare your meals safely, and also enjoy the creamy corn salad recipes you were looking forward to.
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Arin,

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Be Free wrote: Mon Jan 02, 2023 7:35 am
Ixneigh wrote: Mon Jan 02, 2023 7:24 am Rec90 gas for the win.
Is that what they call it in the Keys? Around here it just called "boat gas". :wink:
Yes, locally we call it rec90. We are just happy we can even get it at a few of the nearby service stations.
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I’d love to have a stove made from titanium.


I think the issue was caused by overfilling the tank, which bent the little springs down in bottom and left a gap between the tank and the shutoff valve. Exactly as another member suggested.
The origo stove has been pretty trouble free, but none the less, I am open to a new stove, however there does not seem to be many for sale. I noticed that the alcohol has nearly doubled in price, so perhaps running a stove which uses the butane canisters is not as expensive by comparison any more.

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