I'm thinking of getting a spinnaker. But, I would like to be able to fly it more like a conventional jib.
What I was thinking about is replacing the singe block at the hound with a double. I'd use one sheave for a basic halyard, secured to the cleat on the mast. I'd use this for hoisting the spinnaker, in the sock.
Currently, I have a 'led aft' jib halyard, with a downhaul. I'd use this to control the sock, rather than the sail. From the cockpit, I could pull the sock up, freeing the spinnaker, by pulling the line I now use to raise the jib. I could pull the sock down, dousing the spinnaker, by pulling my downhaul. Both lines are managable from the cockpit.
Now, I don't have a furler. I keep my hank-on jib in a sailbag at the bottom of the forestay. I might need to remove the jib altogether when I get ready to fly the spinnaker. I don't know if that will be necessary...
I also don't know how the further would complicate this.
But, it seems to me that all you really need is a double block at the hound, with the basic stock halyard for hoisting the spinnaker, and a 'led aft' halyard with downhaul for controlling the sock...
Spinnaker and sail trim and stuff
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They Theirs
- Captain
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Most of the M boats showing their full spinnaker deployed have the block a foot or two above the forestay attachment. If you have the M video and watch the larger spinnaker being tacked outside the forestay as many boats with poled out spinnaker and masthead attachment. The small standard spinnaker as shown in the photo and in the M video also could be attached to the standard jib/genoa halyard block.
Youre lucky to have the forestay and I wish mine had not come equipped with the CDI FF2 unit. I would like to try a side-by-side double forestay with genoa/jib hanked and in their deck bags ready for hoist from the same double halyard blocks you describe. I would hold off on the sock, its a small spinnaker. You pay a small penalty for the second forestay in windage but the benefit of having both headsails hanked on with halyards ready would make a more versatile sailboat.
I would like to try the polled out setup like BWYs, with the spinnaker block a foot or so above the forestay on the mast and tacking outside the forestay.
Youre lucky to have the forestay and I wish mine had not come equipped with the CDI FF2 unit. I would like to try a side-by-side double forestay with genoa/jib hanked and in their deck bags ready for hoist from the same double halyard blocks you describe. I would hold off on the sock, its a small spinnaker. You pay a small penalty for the second forestay in windage but the benefit of having both headsails hanked on with halyards ready would make a more versatile sailboat.
I would like to try the polled out setup like BWYs, with the spinnaker block a foot or so above the forestay on the mast and tacking outside the forestay.
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Scott
- Admiral
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DLT, I intend to run the sock control lines aft also. I have all of the fittings just dont have my boat at home yet. I dont see any way to run the control lines aft and have dedicated sheets without flying it outside. Too much stuff to get tangled up. And yes I plan on using a double block on the front of the boat.
When we flew the spin inside we had to furl the jib, velcro strap the sail, clip the sheets across to the spinnaker, loop the parrell beads, hook up the tack line and use the jib halyard to deploy the spinnaker.
When I get this set up rigged I believe I will still drop the sail once on the jib tack. The chutescoop with a spinnaker inside of it is a big sausage. Too much windage. I may leave it up if I plan on raising it soon again or raise it early before a tack but I wont leave it up all day. I think.
When we flew the spin inside we had to furl the jib, velcro strap the sail, clip the sheets across to the spinnaker, loop the parrell beads, hook up the tack line and use the jib halyard to deploy the spinnaker.
When I get this set up rigged I believe I will still drop the sail once on the jib tack. The chutescoop with a spinnaker inside of it is a big sausage. Too much windage. I may leave it up if I plan on raising it soon again or raise it early before a tack but I wont leave it up all day. I think.
Scott,
You have a furled headsail, right? I can see how that could complicate matters...
I just have a hank-on jib... So, I don't see where I'd have the same tangling issues...
What do you think?
By the way, you said that you bought a Chutescoop 295, but looking at their model numbers, I'm thinking you meant 925 (9 inch diameter and 25 foot length). Is that right?
You have a furled headsail, right? I can see how that could complicate matters...
I just have a hank-on jib... So, I don't see where I'd have the same tangling issues...
What do you think?
By the way, you said that you bought a Chutescoop 295, but looking at their model numbers, I'm thinking you meant 925 (9 inch diameter and 25 foot length). Is that right?
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Jeff S
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Great picture! I saw a boat last weekend that was some homebuilt plywood thing that looked like they had their bed sheets hooked on to some 2x4's- I wish I had my camera at the time. They were actually tacking the thing. I didn't want to get too close- what if it started outrunning me?! 
That would be embarrasing! 
That would be embarrasing!