Sailing Videos

jda · Post by **jda** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 7:41 am

After viewing the videos that They/Theirs posted the thought occurred to me that it would be nice to have a spot to park these on the board. These videos could be just some home videos. Is this possible? Do-able? Practical? Already done?

With this available we could get "on-the-water" anytime night or day. This will be especially important for those of us "up north". The leaves have been turning now for a couple of weeks. Fall is in the air and you all know what is next.

Just a thought.

jda

Upon edit - maybe this should be in the Pub area.

Mark Prouty · Post by **Mark Prouty** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 9:27 am

Good idea! How about videos and pictures?

I always use a pump when I am Inflating the dinghy

They Theirs · Post by **They Theirs** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 9:47 am

Jda
Watching the Early MacGregor Video’s when the board was down, made me realize how committed Roger has been to the Trailerable sailboats. I liked seeing some of the well known corny parts carried through the years, some really quite original and hilarious. Those early Macs are looking great, and they sail fast too. The rough water sailing with a water ballast boat looked impressive, but they had several crew on the high side of the boat.

Seeing the progression from trailer sailboat to powersailor made us look at our Mac as including a lot of early models attributes designed into our boat. Makes us feel part of the breed.

I too like videos, and many board members prior posting their weekend expeditions. Great stuff, we like it too.

PS We burned them to DVD, to retain for future viewing. They are similar but not nearly as pristine as the new 05' video.

Mark Prouty ...That was outstanding!

jda · Post by **jda** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 2:49 pm

Mark,

That was good! Not exactly what I was thinking of - but it certainly was funny.

Anybody got any actual sailing footage? Chinook - Do you have anything from your Alaska trip?

Actually, besides They/Theirs posting these videos my wife just got back from a 4 day houseboat trip (with girlfriends) up in Voyageurs National Park. They gave me all of the still shots and I made a "movie" using Windows Movie Maker. It's got music behind it and everything. They named their boat the "USS Confidential".

jda

Chinook · Post by **Chinook** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 5:55 pm

Don't have any video of us sailing in Alaskan waters. Actually, we weren't under sail all that much, for a variety of reasons. The website does include a good assortment of still photos, and several good video clips, mostly of wildlife (fishing bears, sea otters, sea lions, whales), as well as calving glacier and a neat shot of the current in Sergius Narrows, plus a couple more. Website address is (don't use http): chinook.home.dyndns.org If someone sets up a video or photo place on this board, I'd enjoy adding them.

Captain Steve · Post by **Captain Steve** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 7:54 am

JDA..a link to the video??...just wanted to see some minnesota scenery!....long time ago resident of White Bear.

Don T · Post by **Don T** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 8:51 am

Hello All,
A couple of years ago Heath was interested in video clips. He was going to include them in the exploring section. I sent him our San Juan story and DVD in October 2004. He says he's been too busy but me thinks it is more of a bandwidth / $$$$$ issue.

Don T

They Theirs · Post by **They Theirs** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 10:07 am

More Videos
Garry Hoyt here in his 70s, considered a master of design and forward thinking in the world of sailing. His credits of many great designs have been passed over by some, but They Missed the Boat. Watch his Hoyt jib boom, vang in operation. Praised by many cruisers and sport cruisers as a very worthy investment with amazing utility.Interesting viewing of a classic design, long video shows mainsail reefing.
Long loading time, even for Broad Band Cable, but worth the wait! Hit start button on video lower corner when loaded

Short Video-Full Size, DSL connection Long Loading time, short video

An amphibian pedal/solar/sail micro-trimaran, designed for technomadic adventure...

Daysailers

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Russell Coutts Carbon Fiber 44….Fast Boat….Trailer with Semi

Mac Movies

Pre-“X” Generation MacGregor 26S Full Video…Great entertainment, includes some sailing in heavy conditions

Early MacGregor “X” Full Video…Shows the evolution of Powersailor

San Francisco Sailing short video

San Francisco Sailing Long Version Video

Terry · Post by **Terry** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 3:02 pm

The Alerion, now that is one nice sailboat, if I was just a daysailor (which I may be in a few years) that would be a boat for me, makes my heart go pitter patter just looking at it.

At 8'2" in beam it is still trailerable albeit a bit high but at least I could moor in my driveway during winter.
I can certainly understand the narrow beam for smaller boats and daysailers like the Alerion but for the life of me I can't seem to get my head around the logic for skinny pocket cruisers. I would think 8'6" would be the minimum beam for a pocket cruiser in the 26'-28' range but I personally would prefer a 9' beam in that range. I don't know about USA but up here all one requires is an easy to obtain permit for exceeding 8'6" and I believe it goes up to 10'. I am sure it would cost more to buy one but I am also sure there is a market (albeit smaller one) for a 26-28' trailerable motorsailer with a 9' beam. Considering that many folks will wet slip in season and dry store in the driveway through winter it would be ideal for a specific target market of consumers. So where is it?
There is little or no competition for the Mac and its' abilities but if there is one single thing Roger could do to improve his boat it would be to increase that beam to 8'6" and those states that don't approve should simply re-write their highway laws and get with the program like the other states have.
Can't Americans get permits for towing like we can?

richandlori · Post by **richandlori** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 4:00 pm

http://www.svsereia.com/

You want sailing/comedy go here:

Select Photos on the right
Select "Pimp my Ride" in May 2006
Relax, enjoy the music and laugh out loud!

Catigale · Post by **Catigale** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 4:59 pm

MArk - that Dinghy video was inspired by 'Scanners' no doubt...

Mark Prouty · Post by **Mark Prouty** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 6:04 pm

Catigale wrote:MArk - that Dinghy video was inspired by 'Scanners' no doubt...

Wasn't sure what a scanner was so I looked it up. It is an electronic device that generates a digital representation of an image for data input to a computer. I'm not sure how they used this technology to create this video but they did a good job.

That Alerion Express 28 has some exceptional features.
Check out

Reefing system.

The Jib boom/wisker pole.

Gotta go. My buddy is making moonshine.

Catigale · Post by **Catigale** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 4:09 am

' Scanners' ...serious cult film circa 1980.....gotta see that one if you are into bad B grades...

NautiMoments · Post by **NautiMoments** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 7:23 am

Terry, I think there is 2 main reasons Roger will not make the Mac wider. 1st is the permit issue, which is even more critical in some of the state, which I believe is his biggest market at present. Even though a pernit is attainable people will not want to bother and this will hurt sales. 2nd is that any wider than 8 ft will not fit into a container. A lot of these boats are shipped around North America and the world in containers. Right now he can get 2 boats in a 40' container.

They Theirs · Post by **They Theirs** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 1:40 pm

There is probably more to the beam issue than shipping and trailer legality. Wide boats enhance stability while increasing the sharp, harsh motion to the hull ride.

LOA / BEAM RATIO = loa/beam
This ratio measures the fineness of the hull. Fine hulls, having ratios of 3.0 - 4.0 and higher, are long and slender which promotes easy motion, high speed (low drag), and good balance when heeled. Many newer designs favor wider hulls, which have larger interior volume, sail flatter, and have high reaching and down wind speed potential. One note of caution when making comparisons, longer boats tend to be finer then short ones. Our template value is 3.4, which is fairly fine. Fine hulls tend to be well balanced and have low inverted stability.

Mac M LOA 25’ 10” = 25.83
Divided by
BEAM 7’ 10” = 7.83
Gives a LOA/BEAM RATIO = 3.3

Estimating Stability

Hull Profile
Traditionally, cruising yachts are long in the keel and narrow in the beam. This supposedly ensures a seakindly motion and good stability. It also makes for limited accommodation and a possibly wet ride to windward. Here as everywhere else it is a matter of personal preference. My advice, for what it is worth, is to go for a design that has been widely proven in the conditions you want to cruise in. For bluewater cruising in smaller boats traditional design has a lot going for it in terms of documented achievements, but all sorts of boats are out there doing it right now.
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