Siting On Shore Power connector

[Divecoz]

The circuit tester above will function just fine for checking 120VAC 15 or 20 amp outlets on docks. The neutrals and grounds on the dock outlets are all bonded at the on-shore breaker panel, just as in a residence. That tester offers no guarantee the 30 amp outlet is wired correctly.

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Maybe its been just a long weekend on the boat and I'm too tired ..... but you lost me here.

[SkiDeep2001]

The circuit tester above will function just fine for checking 120VAC 15 or 20 amp outlets on docks. The neutrals and grounds on the dock outlets are all bonded at the on-shore breaker panel, just as in a residence. That tester offers no guarantee the 30 amp outlet is wired correctly.

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Maybe its been just a long weekend on the boat and I'm too tired ..... but you lost me here.

Divecoz,The circuit tester is for 120 only, doesn't check 30 amp outlets. As far as dock outlets at the on-shore breaker panel being bonded I have no clue and don't know what that means, all I've done is basic house/automotive and panel wiring. I'm sure someone will give us the whyfors on the whatzits though. Rob

[Hamin' X]

The standard shore power pedestal in the US, is 120V @ 30 Amps. I'm not sure what Moe is referring to, either.

As far as bonding, standard AC power on shore bonds the neutral and ground wire in multiple places. Not so, with shore power systems on boats. With shore power, the neutral and ground, are only connected at the pedestal end, never on the boat. This has to do with the AC and DC system grounds, being connected on the boat.

Don Casey explains it well, in This Article.

~Rich

[Divecoz]

The standard shore power pedestal in the US, is 120V @ 30 Amps. I'm not sure what Moe is referring to, either.

As far as bonding, standard AC power on shore bonds the neutral and ground wire in multiple places. Not so, with shore power systems on boats. With shore power, the neutral and ground, are only connected at the pedestal end, never on the boat. This has to do with the AC and DC system grounds, being connected on the boat.

Don Casey explains it well, in [url=http://www.boatus.com/boattech/casey/36.htm]This Article[/url].

~Rich

Yea we covered that in another thread....
Moe lost me with the twist lock / pedestal statement, but I admit it ......... I am the very worst at getting my thoughts across on paper. I think-em I .....see-em but later when I look at what I wrote I often see, someone stole em ( stole several of my words in each of my statements making them indecipherable ) so again .... I might just be too tired and sun burned........ FROM 4 DAYS OF SAILING!!!

[Hamin' X]

so again .... I might just be too tired and sun burned........ FROM 4 DAYS OF SAILING!!!

Yes, but did you have a great weekend?

~Rich

[Divecoz]

ABYC ???? Governmental Body or Private Entity?? A GB has possible power of execution and entity has nothing but bluff going for it.
So I ask you ? Who and what is ABYC ...........Really ? I dont believe its Governmental as you have to pay to belong and Its books and regulations or not publicly available not even thru the FOIA. It appears to be nothing other than a Private Business run for personal Monetary gain of the controlling individuals.
Hummmmm if so, how did that ever happen ?

[Kelly Hanson East]

About ABYC
Responding to a mid-'50s boom in recreational boating, the American Boat & Yacht Council was formed by members of the Motorboat and Yacht Advisory Panel of the U.S. Coast Guard's Merchant Marine Council. It was incorporated on February 1, 1954, in New York State as a not-for-profit, 501(c)(3) corporation.
At the organization's initial meeting of incorporators and members – held April 30, 1954, at New York's Hotel Lexington – 43 people from all facets of the boating industry were on hand to get the fledgling Council properly launched. Phelps Ingersoll of the Wilcox-Crittenden Corporation was named the first president and ABYC became a working entity.

Over the next 50 years ABYC has grown in various ways--all of them good. Our office moved from a rented house in Amityville, New York, to rented office space in Millersville, Maryland, to our present headquarters building bought by the ABYC Foundation in 1992.

The first set of standards, "Life Saving Equipment" (H-9) and "Battery Chargers" (E-6) were introduced in 1956. The first edition of "Safety Standards and Recommended Practices" was published in 1965 and consisted on 9 standards. Today, "Standards and Technical Information Reports for Small Craft" (previously known as "Standards and Recommended Practices for Small Craft") contains over 65 standards and is growing.

In addition to writing standards, ABYC designed a comprehensive education program beginning in 1989. The education programs include seminars, workshops, Marine Technician Certification program, and standards accreditation.

ABYC will continue to research, develop, review and publish manufacturing and service standards for the boating industry. It is our aim to make recreational boating a safer sport in the next millennium!

[Hamin' X]

The ABYC, is no different than the NEC, issued by the NFPA. Not government sponsored, or law, but having the same effect when the standards are adopted by government and private entities. If you have a professional survey done on a boat, it is done to ABYC standards. Just as in a house that does not meet NEC standards, it is not illegal to own. Lenders may not loan and insurers may not insure.

They are both privately written standards, written by industry councils. The standards change from year to year, as boats burn/sink, people are electrocuted, etc. or homes burn down, or people are shocked.

~Rich