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Re: 12V Cooler

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KayakDan wrote:I just bought an Edgestar FP 430 43 quart fridge/freezer for $398.70,and shipping was free. Killer deal!
http://www.compactappliance.com/FP430-C ... lt,pd.html
If your in the market for a fridge,this might be it.
I was really set on buying the Engel 45,but the $300 difference just tipped me over.

Well thanks for posting about the Edgestar. After looking and looking and thinking a lot between Ruth and I and making a test cross-section of one to try in the boat we ordered one today from the same place. We moved up to .........

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http://www.edgestar.com/products/fridgefreeze/fp630.asp

.....the 630 since it is about the same height and depth, just wider. We are out for pretty long periods and wanted the added storage. At Lake Powell we were out for 18 days and could only get to ice once and about didn't make that. I think we are going to really like this unit. After using it for the summer and next fall I'll report how it did.

If anyone is interested that site.................

http://www.compactappliance.com/FP630-S ... el_Coolers

................. has free shipping through Thursday (11th Feb.), so that saved us about $60 there and the price at $448.00 was the lowest I found anywhere.

The new frig will replace........

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http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner ... de-11.html

......these two coolers and will sit where the blue one is now where it is easy to get to from the starboard seat.

Thanks again Dan,

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Re: 12V Cooler

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KayakDan wrote:I just bought an Edgestar FP 430 43 quart fridge/freezer for $398.70,and shipping was free. Killer deal!
http://www.compactappliance.com/FP430-C ... lt,pd.html
If your in the market for a fridge,this might be it.
I was really set on buying the Engel 45,but the $300 difference just tipped me over.
Dan,
Thanks for posting this. I've been so close to pulling the trigger on a Waeco for weeks now. After looking at this deal (Free Shipping too!!) I went ahead and ordered one too. Like Sumner, I also went up to the 63qt model. At $448 +free shipping I couldn't turn it down. It also comes with both 12v and 110AC power cords. Looking forward to "dry" food for a change.


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RussMT wrote: After looking at this deal (Free Shipping too!!) I went ahead and ordered one too. Like Sumner, I also went up to the 63qt model. At $448 +free shipping I couldn't turn it down. It also comes with both 12v and 110AC power cords. Looking forward to "dry" food for a change.--Russ
WOW!!! that's an excellent deal for a very nice unit.
i know you'll be happy with the purchase.

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Happy to pass along a good deal! 8)
We opted for the smaller unit ,as we'll also keep a cooler on board for beer,etc.
We already have so much stuff going on board for the trip,I'm a little reluctant to add much more weight. Also,we will have access to do some shopping in Exuma,so we don't need to stockpile too much in the fridge.
I figure when we are fully outfitted (complete with 60lbs of 5/16 chain!) we will have about 3 inches of freeboard! :D

Forecast yesterday in George Town was 50+ winds with a front passing thru. Sounds like the chain will be a good decision.
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Re: 12V Cooler

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Has anyone actually used an Edgestar FP 430 (or any edgestar) on their Mac. I know plenty of people have the Engle's, but I am curious where they are putting the Edgestar. I was thinking about placing it on the seat next to the galley as no one ever sits there anyway. I am assuming it is too large to fit under the dinette seat even with mods, plus the temp controls are on the side.
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tompolak wrote:Has anyone actually used an Edgestar FP 430 (or any edgestar) on their Mac. I know plenty of people have the Engle's, but I am curious where they are putting the Edgestar. I was thinking about placing it on the seat next to the galley as no one ever sits there anyway. I am assuming it is too large to fit under the dinette seat even with mods, plus the temp controls are on the side.
Here's one on an :macm:

http://macgregorsailors.com/modt/index.php?view=1253
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Must have missed that one. It is exactly what I was thinking of doing. I did not think of the topper for it though, but it does make sense. Thanks for the link.
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The Edgestar came Monday fast and with free shipping.

From what I can tell, this is a nice unit. It seems well made and durable. The fast freeze worked great. On normal is doesn't seem to cycle much. The sides don't feel cool and the insulation seems adequate, however the lid is cold and probably could use some more.

This tray top would have the added benefit of adding more insulation. I'm going to do that. Great idea Curtiss.

Now on to Solar Panels to keep it running.


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Our 630 came in 2 days ago to our remote Utah location. We were gone for the day and it was here when we got home. Since it was on its end we decided to wait a day before plugging it in. When we did yesterday the control panel lit but nothing happened. It was too late to call service so I did that this morning. They gave me permission to remove the access panel and I did that and two wires were not plugged onto their terminals. I did that and the uint immediately started working. On the fast freeze it dropped from 54 to 08 F in less than an hour empty. We are very happy with it at this point regardless of the wire deal. It is larger inside than what we anticipated and we feel that we can keep a months worth of food that needs to be refrigerated in it if necessary for a long trip. The nice thing is that we will be able to now add drinks as needed and not fill up with those.

I had thought about building a box around it except were the vents where, but the instructions say to keep the sides/ends open to the air, so that is out. They don't say anything about the lid, so that will probably be a go.

The website I think has an error on the amperage it draws. I believe they say 5.5 amps at 12 volts. The actual tag on the unit says 4.5 at 12 volts and 2.5 at 24 and .8 at 115 volts AC. The unit actually runs on 12 volts, so the inconsistencies when converting the wattage from the 24 volts and 115 volts to 12 is inefficiencies in that conversion. At least that is what I think is going on. As we have mentioned before it isn't so much how many amps that it uses when on, but how many over a given time period. This unit seems to have thicker insulation than some of the others, so maybe it will use less electricity over a given time period.

I'll report back on it after I have some figures from usage,

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I received the 63 quart Edgestar yesterday. I called then a hr after I ordered it to cancel the shipment as I went out to the boat and there is only 3 places to put it on the Mac.X and thought it would be to big. They shipped it anyways and been testing it.
The unit is very quite and flash freeze it went down to -4F in 1-1/2 hr with a room temp. of 68 degrees and a warm gal. of water inside.
I was pluged in the AC 110 volt. I set it for 38 degrees early this morning and when I came home the gal. jug of water was still frozzen and I haven't heard it run.
I live in S. Florida but day temps are only high 60's and house is set at 68 degrees so to really test it would be in high eighty but I think it will be very efficiant for my house twin 27 group batteries.
I plan on raiseing the dinnet table 4 inches and put the unit under the table, a person can still sit on both sides with leg room. The other two options is behind starboard setee back rest but that would leave me with no room for under access . The other option is put it on the starboard setee but that again will restrict access to storage.
There is more room than I need for a 5 day trip but it's only 4 inches longer than the 43 quart and has same height and width.
I think it will satisfy my needs and reduce the coolers on board to 2, the 5 day ice cooler will remain under the aft starboard setee for BEER.
I plan on getting a 65 watt solar panel for longer trips.
Dave
tompolak wrote:Has anyone actually used an Edgestar FP 430 (or any edgestar) on their Mac. I know plenty of people have the Engle's, but I am curious where they are putting the Edgestar. I was thinking about placing it on the seat next to the galley as no one ever sits there anyway. I am assuming it is too large to fit under the dinette seat even with mods, plus the temp controls are on the side.
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We received our Edgestar FP430 on Friday. All we did was open it(packaging was excellent) and check the size. Looks great for our needs. We were planning on building an insulated box,but we may have to modify it some
We will be using 2 65w panels to maintain the system. All will be installed and tested "on the hard" in May.
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Just a quick update on my Edgestar 43. I have left it running for about two months in the storage yard with only my 135 watt solar panel powering it. I have a few beers, cokes and water inside. The weather in Sacramento where I live has alternated from raining for up to one week to cloudy and some nice sunshine days. I have a house bank of batteries with two 100 amp hour 12 volt batteries. I keep the temp setting at 44 degrees and the unit has run fine and the batteries and solar panel have had no problems keeping up. The unit is quiet and so far has worked well. Just remember this is not a "real life test" as I am only working on the boat intermittently and not living or taking a lot of food in and out of the fridge.

I will be taking the boat to Baja for the month of April and I will have more real life feed back after that trip.
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I just found a AD that has a Whynter 65 quart on sale for $490. It looks the same as Edgestar and has same size measurements and probably is the same.
The main Spec's say on AC it runs on .7 amps and on 12 volt runs on 2.5 amps.
If this is true than this unit is more efficient than other Brands.
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http://www.nextag.com/serv/main/buyer/p ... arch=n&kw=
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curtiss wrote:Just a quick update on my Edgestar 43. I have left it running for about two months in the storage yard with only my 135 watt solar panel powering it. I have a few beers, cokes and water inside. The weather in Sacramento where I live has alternated from raining for up to one week to cloudy and some nice sunshine days. I have a house bank of batteries with two 100 amp hour 12 volt batteries. I keep the temp setting at 44 degrees and the unit has run fine and the batteries and solar panel have had no problems keeping up. The unit is quiet and so far has worked well. Just remember this is not a "real life test" as I am only working on the boat intermittently and not living or taking a lot of food in and out of the fridge.

I will be taking the boat to Baja for the month of April and I will have more real life feed back after that trip.
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DaveB wrote:I just found a AD that has a Whynter 65 quart on sale for $490. It looks the same as Edgestar and has same size measurements and probably is the same.
The main Spec's say on AC it runs on .7 amps and on 12 volt runs on 2.5 amps.
If this is true than this unit is more efficient than other Brands.
Here are the specs from EdgeStar's site for the FP630:

Energy guide: Energy requirements: DC 12/24 Volts, 5.5 Amps/2.75 Amps
AC 115 Volts/60Hz, 1 Amp
75 Watts DC

Yet the tag on the back of the unit has the following:

DC 12/24 Volts, 4.5/2.5
AC 115 Volts/60Hz, .8 Amp
75 Watts

Seems that the engineering department and the advertising guys ought to maybe have lunch together.

Now the Whynter sure looks to be exactly the same as the EdgeStar FP630, but somehow it grew by 2 quarts and like you said the amps went down. I wonder if that is the amps when it isn't in the Fast Freeze or something or maybe their advertising department took a few liberties.

Now if you go to Whynter's Site.....

http://whynter.com/RF_Product20.htm

There they say:

Voltage power AC (110V - 1A) or DC (12V - 2.75A Car Lighter Socket)

This is different yet. I'll bet that since the unit is made in China that EdgeStar and Whynter and who knows who else are just putting their name on it. I have a .......

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....mill and a....................

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...... lathe that I got from Harbor Freight with their name on them. Enco and Grizzle sell exactly the same mill and lathe with their names on them.

I'll put my amp meter on the frig at some point and see what it says, but I don't care how many amps it uses when it is running. I only care about how much it runs :wink:

c ya and thanks for the update,

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I will test the load when on, and the time it takes to turn on @38 degrees and cycle. But not until we have high 80's and low nighties to test our normal spring,summer and fall temps here in SW FL.
We have a 4 day Cruise March 19th with the WCTSS to Cayo Costa, FL and will let all know how the 65 quart cooler works on 2 group 27 batteries.
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Sumner wrote:
DaveB wrote:I just found a AD that has a Whynter 65 quart on sale for $490. It looks the same as Edgestar and has same size measurements and probably is the same.
The main Spec's say on AC it runs on .7 amps and on 12 volt runs on 2.5 amps.
If this is true than this unit is more efficient than other Brands.
Here are the specs from EdgeStar's site for the FP630:

Energy guide: Energy requirements: DC 12/24 Volts, 5.5 Amps/2.75 Amps
AC 115 Volts/60Hz, 1 Amp
75 Watts DC

Yet the tag on the back of the unit has the following:

DC 12/24 Volts, 4.5/2.5
AC 115 Volts/60Hz, .8 Amp
75 Watts

Seems that the engineering department and the advertising guys ought to maybe have lunch together.

Now the Whynter sure looks to be exactly the same as the EdgeStar FP630, but somehow it grew by 2 quarts and like you said the amps went down. I wonder if that is the amps when it isn't in the Fast Freeze or something or maybe their advertising department took a few liberties.

Now if you go to Whynter's Site.....

http://whynter.com/RF_Product20.htm

There they say:

Voltage power AC (110V - 1A) or DC (12V - 2.75A Car Lighter Socket)

This is different yet. I'll bet that since the unit is made in China that EdgeStar and Whynter and who knows who else are just putting their name on it. I have a .......

Image

....mill and a....................

Image

...... lathe that I got from Harbor Freight with their name on them. Enco and Grizzle sell exactly the same mill and lathe with their names on them.

I'll put my amp meter on the frig at some point and see what it says, but I don't care how many amps it uses when it is running. I only care about how much it runs :wink:

c ya and thanks for the update,

Sum

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