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Re: your ideal motor sailer

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2015 6:14 pm
by grady
kadet wrote:It' called a Noelex 30

http://noelex.org.au/review-n30/

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I would say Hobie 33

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Re: your ideal motor sailer

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2015 6:58 pm
by Wayne nicol
from what i read- they dont immerse those trailers- so they must lift the boat with a hoist, and then set it on the trailer- doesnt really make sense though.

Re: your ideal motor sailer

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2015 9:35 pm
by kadet
grady wrote:
I would say Hobie 33

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Yeah that looks real street legal here and easy to store in my front yard 8) NOT!! Plus only 187 built good luck finding one :) There were 800+ Noelex 30s built in Australia let alone New Zealand.

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Only an 8 foot beam and powered by an outboard and designed as an ultra light one class racer NO THANKS..

But defiantly a nice boat :(

Re: your ideal motor sailer

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2015 9:48 pm
by kadet
Wayne nicol wrote:from what i read- they dont immerse those trailers- so they must lift the boat with a hoist, and then set it on the trailer- doesnt really make sense though.
Hobbie or Noelex :?:

Noelex are ramp launched all the time no special hoist needed..

Re: your ideal motor sailer

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:52 am
by grady
kadet wrote:
Wayne nicol wrote:from what i read- they dont immerse those trailers- so they must lift the boat with a hoist, and then set it on the trailer- doesnt really make sense though.
Hobbie or Noelex :?:

Noelex are ramp launched all the time no special hoist needed..
Not sure where you got that?

http://www.slideshare.net/scottself589/ ... ce-on-soap

Look at the 3rd page, trailer appears to be in the water? And there is a hoist just next to that ramp. Racers do like to use hoists and a lot of these are raced. That is the thing I like about it is the one design racing aspect. Once you have raced one design, PHRF sucks.

Re: your ideal motor sailer

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 6:33 pm
by Catigale
The plugs for the Hobie 33 were still around a few years ago. If anyone wants to make a couple million building them the y would sell like hot cakes.

For my addition to this thread, I like outboard wells. Instead of a crappy expensive marine engine below decks smelling up,your boat, put a nice 15,HP sail drive in a well.

Need service, just pull it up and take it to the shop.

Re: your ideal motor sailer

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 8:34 pm
by kadet
Yep they are real crappy :D Run for days on end can power your fridge heat your water etc.. Fuel cost is bugger all last for decades and if properly maintained so oil seals are good smell less than a crappy petrol outboard :?

But horses for courses, my next trailer sailer will be spending a good few months a year sailing the east coast and top end of OZ might even get brave enough to circumnavigate this little island 8)

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Re: your ideal motor sailer

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 11:08 pm
by Wayne nicol
i really like inboards too- easier to maintain, cost effective etc, but at the coast of easy beaching, and easy trailering( unless you go with an inboard/outboard) and space usage down below

Re: your ideal motor sailer

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 9:43 pm
by mastreb
For a light sailboat in the <15hp range, outboards are cheaper than inboards. They're also less maintenance and have no shaft bearing issues. Below 30', I'd go outboard.

I'm really not liking the "sail-drive" I have on my new boat. Requires hauling every year to change the crank-case oil. No way to do it in the water. And the 8" hole in the bottom of the boat is quite worrisome.

What I'd love to see is a system that allows me to somehow easily power both my sailboat and my dingy using the same outboard. No idea how that would work, but I find I tend to never use both at the same time.

Re: your ideal motor sailer

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 2:56 am
by Catigale
Outboard in well...lift up, change oil, or even re power. A 15 HP could easily over powers small dinghy but too much power is easy to solve. If you are 6 crew up, your dinghy is going to be larger anyway ( notwithstanding the 10 on an Achilles we see on Cape)

Very cool.