Moe Boat Quizz

[Chip Hindes]

These all seem to give a whole new meaning to the concept of trailerability.

I'm not sure I quite get the concept of a trailerable offshore boat. I won't argue as to whether these are offshore capable; in fact I'll accept the evidence indicates that they are.

On the other hand, if I ever get serious about offshore, I'm not too excited about cramming everything I'll need into a 24 foot boat. You've also got to put up with the crappy short boat ride, and BTW, who wants to go offshore in an absolutely for sure, non-planing, full displacemnt boat with a hull speed of only something like six knots? Guys in Macs will be passing you, for gosh sake.

I read an editorial comment in Sail mag a couple years ago wherin the guy suggested the length of an offshore boat should be equal to or greater than the average age of the crew. That puts the first mate and me in the approximate dollar range of, "Are you kidding me?" Looks like our only hope my would be to have more kids, which is not happening, or maybe to take the yet to be conceived grandchildren. Oh, well.

[moonie]

Moe,

Check this website http://cape.iyb.co.za/iyb/ and type in flicka under the search engine.
The SAR is 6.65 to the $.

Moonie

[Moe]

Those I haven't seen! For the savings, we could afford to fly down there and sail one home!

[Chip Hindes]

Chip Hindes wrote:
who wants to go offshore in an absolutely for sure, non-planing, full displacemnt boat with a hull speed of only something like six knots? Guys in Macs will be passing you, for gosh sake.

That depends on the sea state offshore. On calm water, sure, but don't forget that once you get the Mac past its 6.5 knot hull speed, its fuel consumption goes up considerably.

Yes, but in this and most other cases you've quoted, you have me confused with someone who would consider taking the Mac offshore. Although I have sailed to Bimini (twice) and the Dry Tortugas in my Mac, and yes, by most definitions this is offshore, I have no illusions that the Mac is a serious offshore boat.

My point above has very little to do with motoring, but mostly to do with the fact that a longer boat is faster under sail. The dig about Macs was tongue in cheek, but there's no doubt, motoring or sailing, you will have the slowest offshore boat in the fleet.

My original point remains:

1) of course you can go "offshore" in a 24 foot trailerable

2) why would you want to?

[kmclemore]

Me Mine, can you please shorten that link? The scrolling back and forth is giving me finger strain.

Code: Select all

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...and the resulting code in action:

This is the way to create an imbedded text link, for example, to Google.

(I'd demonstrate the code in for your long one, but then I'd just perpetuate the problem by posting the long link as a part of the code box)

[Mark Prouty]

Mark

You removed your post on Chips Fat Wide Motion Post?

Sorry about that.

Motion Comfort Ratio was developed by Boat Designer Ted Brewer. The formula predicts the speed of the upward and downward motion of the boat as it encounters waves and swells. The faster the motion the more uncomfortable the passengers. Thus, the formula predicts the overall comfort of a boat when it is underway. Higher values denote a more comfortable ride. As the Displacement increases the motion comfort ratio will increase. As the length and beam increases the motion comfort ratio will decrease.

MCR = Disp / (2/3*((7/10 * LWL)+(1/3 *LOA))*Beam4/3 )

Motion Comfort Ratio

Seems shorter would be more comfy. Does it not have more displacement than a Mac for its size. Shorter than a Mac/more displacement than a Mac comfier than a Mac.

Let's talk about that recurrent daydream you're having.

[Mark Prouty]

Flicka, which means "happy little girl" in Swedish

Flick says "so what!"

[aya16]

If you are going to dream about a lovely stable pocket cruiser.

http://www.norseayachts.com/ns27photo1.php

As much as I think of this boat as the best little boat I know that Ill do the same things with it I do with the Mac. And the comfort of the Mac works for me. Sailing the Mac is a blast, as would sailing the norsea or any other
Small cruiser. But the grass is always greener bug strikes us all and sometimes we miss what we used to have. I wont make that mistake with my Mac as long as it fills the bill and I dont feel the Mac is over its head Ill keep it and use it. The key word is using it. If you dont use the Mac you wont use the Norsea or flica or any other toy you buy. And if you use the Mac you will get comfortable with it and understand that, at least for me, most of the Mac shortcomings were from me not the boat. As it used
More and more the Mac starts getting really high marks because I have learned to use it. And by the way the Mac is very forgiving and will teach you as you go.
My choice over the Norsea or Flica or any other boat was and still is the Mac. The only shortcomings so far are from non-Mac owners. And I dont care what they think.
In the mast up storage area where my boat stays the Macs are by far the most boats stored there more then any other brand. And they by far are the most users of any boats there. New people that just bought the Mac
Do enormous amount of research before they buy. And still they buy the Mac. You have to remember what all the non-Mac owners told you before you bought your boat about what a hunk a junk the Mac is. Everyone that bought a Mac after this over came it because of sites like this and owners with smiles on their face at the ramps. Every one with the stupid grin on their face launching the Mac, as you found out, wasnt some nut case grinning for nothing....

[Terry]

But the grass is always greener bug strikes us all

Yeah, I'm green with envy over that Nor'Sea 37' the stuff of dreams!
The day I win that lottery is the day I own one or something similar. Kind of reminds me of a pirate ship with it's old world design. I saw my real dream boat at the tall ships festival but doubt I could sail one without a full crew compliment. I'm sure I could make do with a Nor'sea 37 or similar though.

[waternwaves]

ME Mine,

If I may interject.........

There are some places in the pacific northwest off the coast, where the wave trains and vessel safety are much much better to transit......ie...

The west side of vancouver island is well represented with vessels sure they could navigate close to the coast. my least desireable sailing events on this coast could have been greatly ameliorated if I had been a good 10 or 20 miles off shore......,

The great pacific is a mighty master.... but she is much much meaner when someone or something lifts her bottom up rapidly and stacks her waves........ a stable cruiser is nice, but knowledge is far more comortable than volume

just my 1/12 of a quarter...........(rounding down)