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waternwaves wrote: I have not met a 30 yr old male or female, without engineering training or vehicle repair training that I would trust their observations and judgements about any boat anyway.

Add an IPOD plug to your Mac, instant sale, a 25 to 35 year old will buy anything that has IPOD compatability without knowing how to use it.

Glenn

waternwaves wrote:
I have not met a 30 yr old male or female, without engineering training or vehicle repair training that I would trust their observations and judgements about any boat anyway.

Add an IPOD plug to your Mac, instant sale, a 25 to 35 year old will buy anything that has IPOD compatability without knowing how to use it.

But don't hold your breath when it comes to collecting what you hope to get for it

The Mutt wrote:Add an IPOD plug to your Mac, instant sale, a 25 to 35 year old will buy anything that has IPOD compatability without knowing how to use it.

Glenn

Add cup holders, and it's a sure sale!

Na
Just have one dozen well endowed young gals come by when showing the boat asking when are we going out sailing again honey . then tell the person who wants to buy it that your really gonna miss this boat ! ?

J

Thankyou francis........... I am still smiling and snickering as any good german should..........

und ver ist mein...............?

Too funny-
pneumatic or 'lectric!

You guys got it rite on ... most 35 yr olds and younger have absolutely no hands on experience. I think that ended when the cars became fuel infected and too tough for your average 18 yr old to deal with. The tinkering gene/aptitude is disappearing...but I see signs of life in other areas, mainly computers. I teach high school and was an Army officer so I've seen this coming for some time. In the Army we called them the "Nintendo Generation!"

Funny, I've said for years that a lot of the younger generation learnt how to drive using a Playstation.

"Life has no reset button"

Glenn

It would be nice if that generation could fix their play stations and controllers...........but they are a throwaway generations.

as much with their relationships as their "stuff"

Hopefully their chinese, korean and japanese bankers will be there for them.

People still think I am strange repairing circuit boards in cell phones.........
dash panels in cars
backlight displays in laptops......
Marine electronics.

IT really is amazing..The large majority of failed electronics I deal with is due to mechanical problems and has nothing to do with the electrics. If you sit your laptop on a blanket all the time and never clean the lint out...........of course it is going to overheat..........

Oh well......

Cheap parts for me it seems.

Now if anyone has a broken chartplotter they have no use for..........

waternwaves wrote:People still think I am strange repairing circuit boards in cell phones.........
dash panels in cars
backlight displays in laptops......

I had to fix my backlight on my laptop. It wasn't a hard repair with a piece of wire and some solder. However it made the TSA agents very nervous. They ran that thing through x-ray so many times.

--Russ

Okay - as much as I hate reviving old posts (and as much as you guys probably hate to see old posts revived), I felt that this was the most appropriate and recent post that showed that I used the search criteria before just asking a stupid question...

I have been looking at 26S boats as you all know...and several of the people have talked to me about a sea trial.
I keep thinking to myself - "I know what boat I want, what's the point?" I am mechanically-inclined enough to be able to see some of the issues, know enough about fiberglass to catch major issues, etc. It isn't like I'm wondering if I want this or a different design...it's "do I want the 26S that's behind door #1 or door #3?".

And I was going to ask if I REALLY REALLY needed to do a sea trial in a boat that isn't "new"***, is well-proven with thousands having been made (not like a boat that they made 50 or 60 of and each one is different than the next one I'll see...), and a boat which has...well...fewer "big" items that can be wrong with it (small engine, one mast, bitty cabin, etc.).

***I am looking at boats that are 16-18 years old and I realize that...they aren't going to be perfect, and I'm not really shopping for "perfect"... So I just wonder how much I'm going to learn about a particular boat on a sea trial...whatd'ya think?

I would buy a Mac without a sea trial if I felt I had a good idea of how it had been used and maintained. Looking at the car the owner drives, and a peek in their garage would tell you a lot about the personality....(thinking of Kevin...)

Viz...

I didn't take a trial run. I had researched the boat like you and knew what I wanted. I had been watching the dealers web site for a couple of years, visited him a couple of times, and decided that he was honest. The boat was a 2005 and looked like new, we rigged the mast and ran the sails up and down, dropped the motor into a barrel of water and revved it up a few times. Being a newbie to sailing, I don't think putting it on the water would have told me anything anyway (unless it sank). So far I haven't been disappointed.

Russell

Cat - good idea - I'll see if he'll let me into his garage...

Russell, that's about what I was thinking - step the mast, run the sails up and down, check out the rigging, lights on/off, motor in a trash can of water...just enough to be sure it all "works"...

Hey, but then again I guess it is a "free sailboat ride" too, isn't it... hmmmmm...

Is there a chance that one boat would sail completely differently than another (I'm suspecting not)? Is there something I'll be able to tell about a boat by a sea trial that I wouldn't know otherwise? I'm thinking that there are so many variables (mast rake, sail condition, etc.) that I wouldn't really be able to tell anything except...hey, that's different...

vizwhiz wrote:Is there a chance that one boat would sail completely differently than another (I'm suspecting not)? Is there something I'll be able to tell about a boat by a sea trial that I wouldn't know otherwise? I'm thinking that there are so many variables (mast rake, sail condition, etc.) that I wouldn't really be able to tell anything except...hey, that's different...

And the captain's sailing ability. I often outrun other true keelboats because they don't know how to sail.
I don't think you will find one Mac sails better than the same model as another (except the blue hulls are slightly faster).

What about those "modified" Macs with more than the standard number of sails. Me thinks I don't want to race them.