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Re: Beaten by a 26D
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:52 pm
by grady
Newell wrote:I use the adjustable backstay to shape the mainsail to reduce heeling when the windspeed rises and I'm determined to keep the boat competitive and have some fun in the face of worsening conditions. I also tighten the boom outhaul.

Exactly on a fractional rig when you tighten up the back stay it bends the mast and flattens out the main sail to de-power it. it does tighten up the fore stay some also. On a mast heat rig tightening up the back stay will just tighten the fore stay you will not have as much control of mast bend.
As for where to fly the Asymmetrical spinnaker I wold not fly it from the top unless you only do it in light wind conditions or convert to mast head. My 26s had a hole drilled in the mast about half way between the uppers and the top. Instead of drilling a new hole I chose to use that one for my asymmetrical spinnaker block. I have been knocked down before in 20kts of wind and everything held up fine. I fly my spin from that block and from a 2ft bow sprit. That gives me around a 12.3 ft J and a 25.4 ft I for a 28 ft Luff. I am going to have a full spinnaker made with those measurements and I imagine it will need to be taken down as soon as white caps show up. My spinnaker I have now is about 5 ft short.
Re: Beaten by a 26D
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 8:15 pm
by finding41
Grady do you have a picture of your bowsprit you can post or email me? I think I may have a bit of a problem mounting one on my 26D. A PO anchor thing mod... is in the way.
I'm looking for some type of solution working around the mod. Or I have a big hole to patch.
EDIT; Never mind the pictures. I found your mods. Thanks!
Re: Beaten by a 26D
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 5:06 pm
by grady
Your welcome.
Re: Beaten by a 26D
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:52 pm
by Newell
I like this topic as it adds pszazz to the 26D folklore and Macs in general. Sorry to be bragging, but 82 skippers entering the Long Distance Race at Havasu 2013 were just beaten by a 26D, mine. I also won the Manufacturer's Cup if just counting monohulls, since I was second to a F-27 and the race was not handicapped and I beat him in the first race, I felt great about the race also.
The 26D I match raced against last year was replaced by the F-27 this year. The owner invited me to race in Idaho against a local with a fast D there. Can't wait, but my wife has interfering plans perhaps.

Re: Beaten by a 26D
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 6:08 pm
by finding41
Re: Beaten by a 26D
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 5:13 am
by Catigale
since I was second to a F-27
First loser, congratulations!
Oooowwwwwwwww!!
Seriously, congrats Newell...would be fun to connect on the water sometime but I don't think I would give you much of a challenge........
Re: Beaten by a 26D
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 10:29 am
by Newell
Seriously, congrats Newell...would be fun to connect on the water sometime but I don't think I would give you much of a challenge........
It's a darn fact, Windancer is a rocket. However, when the wife retires we plan to trailer the X all over the USA behind the RV so perhaps we could do some X racing, sailing and sight-seeing in your waters.

Re: Beaten by a 26D
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 10:34 am
by Newell
Grady,
"EDIT; Never mind the pictures. I found your mods. Thanks!"
I looked and didn't find. I have the stock trailer and don't think I could add a bowsprit without adding length to the trailer tongue, but would like to see what you have done.
Re: Beaten by a 26D
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:04 pm
by Phil M
Is the 26D and the 26C the same boat? I used to own a 26C, a classic sailboat.
Re: Beaten by a 26D
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 3:12 pm
by finding41
Phil M wrote:Is the 26D and the 26C the same boat? I used to own a 26C, a classic sailboat.
Yep.
Except I've seen the 26S mistakenly called a classic too. (Some people....)
Re: Beaten by a 26D
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 8:16 pm
by Sumner
Phil M wrote:Is the 26D and the 26C the same boat? I used to own a 26C, a classic sailboat.
The 26C (C for 'classic') applies to both the D and the S,
Sum
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Re: Beaten by a 26D
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 8:50 pm
by grady
Newell wrote:Grady,
"EDIT; Never mind the pictures. I found your mods. Thanks!"
I looked and didn't find. I have the stock trailer and don't think I could add a bowsprit without adding length to the trailer tongue, but would like to see what you have done.
The bow sprit sticks out the same distance as the hitch. I do have to be careful on steep boat ramps. luckily I live in texas with shallow ramps.

Re: Beaten by a 26D
Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 2:41 pm
by Catigale
It's a darn fact, Windancer is a rocket. However, when the wife retires we plan to trailer the X all over the USA behind the RV so perhaps we could do some X racing, sailing and sight-seeing in your waters.
It's a date Newell...I wonder if my Harpoon 6.2 PHRF 92 ish, could give you a run for your money? Not with me at the helm, but with 15 year old Abby who never moves the Tiller more the inch ....

Re: Beaten by a 26D
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 9:23 am
by Newell
Catigale wrote:It's a darn fact, Windancer is a rocket. However, when the wife retires we plan to trailer the X all over the USA behind the RV so perhaps we could do some X racing, sailing and sight-seeing in your waters.
It's a date Newell...I wonder if my Harpoon 6.2 PHRF 92 ish, could give you a run for your money? Not with me at the helm, but with 15 year old Abby who never moves the Tiller more the inch ....

The Harpoon appears to be a rare classic boat. I'm sure it would kick butt on the X, but the D? Apparently, there are only 150 of them out there?
Below decks, there's a warm and friendly little cabin, where daysailing families can change into bathing suits, get out of bad weather, or use the private head. And, on those rare-but-welcome free weekends, two adults can slip away with the wrong wine, the right fantasies and an ocean view that would command a sheik's ransom. The double Vee-berth is king-sized. [Note: If you are over 6' tall, you might not consider it "king-sized". (ed)] Port and starboard are counters for the optional stove and
So you are a 2 boat owner like some of us.

Re: Beaten by a 26D
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 11:54 am
by drams_1999
I spent this weekend sailing with some friends of mine that have a water ballasted 1989 D.......they can clearly sail faster on any point of sail than my M.....I have about 5 years experience on my boat and he has only 6 months of any sailing experience at all on his.
Both boats are beachable....as we demonstrated this weekend.
His has a proper sailboat round bottom, mine has the "powersailor" bottom with transom.
I have more headroom, and 44 more horses that are attached to 2 synchronized rudders and can be trimmed from the helm.
His 6 h.p. engine can't turn with his rudder, cant be trimmed without fiddling at the engine, and is throttled seperately from the tiller.
His has a lazarrette that mine doesnt have.
His has a lower freeboard (less headroom but probably better to point with).
I have an anchor locker and bow roller that he doesn't have.
As far as other aspects, both boats are great for getting out on the water with family, spending the night, and having an amazing time sailing or tucked into a cove, but the 26D clearly has an edge on a 26M when sailing IMO.....and thats ok with me, he was willing to come back for me when under sail and I came back for him when under power
