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fishstalker7 wrote:Here is an interesting option (holds about 5 of the small screw in bottles worth of propane).

http://www.campingworld.com/shopping/it ... gal-/56052

11lbs weight, 12 inches tall, 9 inches diameter.

I don't have a boat yet, but this may be the middle ground for a couple of days to a week out of provisions if someone crafty could figure out a good stern rail mounting setup??

Modifiers...create! 8)
They also sell these 5lb tanks at Canadian Tire and I believe Wal-Mart. My furnace is plumbed in through the anchor locker. I put an extension on the end and hang the tank off the forward rails with a few very large carabineers, and run the hose up from the anchor locker.
In heavier weather the tank can swing wildly and I end up putting it below. It does have the new safety valve on it so the possibilities of leaks are minimized, and is only in the cabin when underway and conditions don’t permit it on deck. The tank will last us four to five days, and nights in the end seasons and indefinitely (weather dependant) during the warm months.
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Yes well you cold climate sailors need for heating fuel changes the equation somewhat....our need is for cooking and a little hot water for washing ie the wife....I'm tough....cold will do most of the time...just as long as I don't have to got to bed scratchy ie salt and when in fresh water a dive overboard and a quick lather will do....mind you the way my wife goes thru tea its a wonder we don't need more gas
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yukonbob wrote: My furnace is plumbed in through the anchor locker. I put an extension on the end and hang the tank off the forward rails with a few very large carabineers, and run the hose up from the anchor locker.
In heavier weather the tank can swing wildly and I end up putting it below. It does have the new safety valve on it so the possibilities of leaks are minimized, and is only in the cabin when underway and conditions don’t permit it on deck. The tank will last us four to five days, and nights in the end seasons and indefinitely (weather dependant) during the warm months.
Nice.

I've never seen a propane model. I bought a Mr. Heater for insurance. Haven't used it since. Seems the mere threat of an artificial heat source keeps the temps warm.

I considered a Wallas heater that runs on diesel. Space on our boats is a premium so I just can't justify mounting it.
Strange how our Southern friends are looking for A/C and gensets to run them while we want to stay warm at night in the Spring and Fall. Oh yea, they get to sail all winter. :(

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Russ,
I've used a Mr. Heater several times, it works great.
Two years ago we used it over Labor Day Weekend when we had frost(!) here on Lake Winnebago.
We ran it for a few hours in the evening to get the chill out, then ran it in the morning when we got up.
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I am a little bit wary of the cheap butane gas canisters after a recent explosion here in Western Australia. http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/western ... 6834256318

I have a portable double burner cooker which uses these canisters but I am moving to the Origo 4100 https://www.dometic.com/enus/Americas/U ... taid=72887 as soon as I get more boat dollars :)
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Generally when we arrive for the weekend we fire up the furnace (Force 10 with ecofan, also have a 12V wired in to really move air) on high for an hour to warm everything up, then it stays on low for the rest of the weekend (in the shoulder seasons). Usually by the first morning (after running all night on low) the heat is all the way into every part of the boat including the bilge. This really dries things out and it will retain heat for quite a while. Then cooking heats it up that mush more. We also run a little buddy heater when we sit in the cockpit with the full enclosure for a few hours in the evening sipping rum :wink:
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Well don't like the idea of gas in the cabin but to each their own, I am not even in favour of our gas barbq out the back above the fuel lockers but always make sure I wind the fuel tank caps down tight and shut off the vents prior running it.
As for the gas container ours sits at the stern under the barbq, am sure a commercial one is made and a stainless bottle but I knocked this one up pretty easy it's abit hard to see but hung it off the stern rail and made a couple of brackets to follow the shape of the hull the rest is just stainless wire.
We do carry a butane cooker which we used last trip as the wife got a bottle of mineral turps instead of metho. :?:
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Well that didn't turn out too well will see if I can take a photo later.
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innervations wrote:I am a little bit wary of the cheap butane gas canisters after a recent explosion here in Western Australia.
The story mentioned the spare canister overheating and exploding, which makes me wonder where it was and why it was overheating. Those butane canisters are pretty common, and that's the first time I've heard of one exploding. I'd sure like to know exactly how it happened, as I'm planning on getting one of those inexpensive butane stoves this spring.
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Hi Yukon, where do you have your force 10 mounted.
i opted for the dickinson p12000, and am getting ready to install. got extra hose, and running it to the stern still have to configure a monting/storage system off the transom for the cannister etc
http://www.dickinsonmarine.com/propane.php
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From what I can tell from the news reports it was not the canister in the stove but one sitting near by - obviously too near by :(

As pointed out in an earlier post increases in temperature really increase the pressure in the canister. I have been using the small portable butane stove with canister for the past 3 years and it's works really well and cost all of $29.95. There is a warning not to use indoors but I sit ours on top of the galley to boil water for coffee or cook a meal. I make sure the boat is well ventilated in case of CO. Not a problem where we are as never cold.
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Wayne nicol wrote:Hi Yukon, where do you have your force 10 mounted.
i opted for the dickinson p12000, and am getting ready to install. got extra hose, and running it to the stern still have to configure a monting/storage system off the transom for the cannister etc
http://www.dickinsonmarine.com/propane.php
BWY did the mounting, and it is on the fore MDF bulkhead in the head. It takes up some room and when on can make using the head interesting at best, but we sleep in the V and the bulkhead provides pretty much the only thermal mass on the boat that isn't in contact with the water. It's also nice cause you can feel the heat coming for it when we're in bed. I did put a picture n here some where. I'll try and find it and post.
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yyup have seen a few of them mounted there before.
i am installing a dometic 110 across from the head door, and then going to build a bulkhead, just aft of the freezer, and mount the heater on that- so that its more midships- we use the stern berth more- i am a bit too tall for the V.
that will also allow the v to be curtained off at the bulkhead/ daggerboard trunk
to give a little privacy for the v, as thats where my outlaws stay when we go on the boat- and then the head is right there for them to use during the night.
its going to make the boat feel a wee bit smaller- but for us cold climaters thats ok.

to the storage- i will be making the pvc tube to store spare cannisters, and attach that to the stanchion at the cockpit bulkhead, but need to decide on the hose routing- i thought exiting high up on the port side in the motor well- right up in the deck molding, then just a short hose running out to the back of the transom , where i will have thebottle hanging, in some kind of custom made container.

any thoughts or ideas on this
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Tomfoolery wrote:
innervations wrote:I am a little bit wary of the cheap butane gas canisters after a recent explosion here in Western Australia.
The story mentioned the spare canister overheating and exploding, which makes me wonder where it was and why it was overheating. Those butane canisters are pretty common, and that's the first time I've heard of one exploding. I'd sure like to know exactly how it happened, as I'm planning on getting one of those inexpensive butane stoves this spring.
Hi Tom I have two of these cheap butane stoves one sits in the counter top I'll post the mod later to night on this page

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Highlander wrote:
Tomfoolery wrote:
innervations wrote:I am a little bit wary of the cheap butane gas canisters after a recent explosion here in Western Australia.
The story mentioned the spare canister overheating and exploding, which makes me wonder where it was and why it was overheating. Those butane canisters are pretty common, and that's the first time I've heard of one exploding. I'd sure like to know exactly how it happened, as I'm planning on getting one of those inexpensive butane stoves this spring.
Hi Tom I have two of these cheap butane stoves one sits in the counter top I'll post the mod later to night on this page
John - I'm going to have to work harder to come up with something you or Geoff haven't already done. :D :wink:
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Highlander wrote:
Tomfoolery wrote:
innervations wrote:I am a little bit wary of the cheap butane gas canisters after a recent explosion here in Western Australia.
The story mentioned the spare canister overheating and exploding, which makes me wonder where it was and why it was overheating. Those butane canisters are pretty common, and that's the first time I've heard of one exploding. I'd sure like to know exactly how it happened, as I'm planning on getting one of those inexpensive butane stoves this spring.
Hi Tom I have two of these cheap butane stoves one sits in the counter top I'll post the mod later to night on this page

J 8)
here u go
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the grill is nice for putting ur hot pots & pans onto

Stove cost 2o$ stainless roasting pan 34$ & cutting board 18$ not bad for a nice little mod

J 8)
PS forgot to mention the stove is stored inside the roasting pan when not in use & catches any splillage while cooking
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