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awolfe
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Post by awolfe »

FYI,

Duane may be correct about STILL needing a "steaming light", since our boats don't have a 360 degree stern light... :?:

BOATS UNDER 12 METERS (39.4')

Powerboats-Separate or combination red and green sidelights, 112.5, visible 1 n.m., placed above hull at least 1 meter (3.3') below masthead light. Masthead: white, 225, visible 2 n.m., at least 1 meter above side lights. White stern light, 135, visible 2 n.m. OR, one all-round (360) white light (should also have sidelights]
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PS Our boats look GREAT w/o the mast...but even better with it :wink:
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Post by Dubraque »

On masts and powerboats, might point out that a certain class of powerboats, trawlers, have short little masts on which to carry a steadying sail. While this will have little effect on fuel eceonomy, it will minimize under the right circumstances the rocking motion both under weigh (at lower trawler speeds) and at anchor.
'Course might be tough to use one at 22 kts.
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They Theirs
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Post by They Theirs »

RichandLoris old Bent and perverted ENTERPRISE SEA Mast from their 04 26M #530 w50Hp Honda up For Sale, could be salvaged for a modern Trawler look with a short stout mast for Greg.
Since the Mac makes a very capable power cruiser and the fuel economy is best at trawler speeds Nabil makes a good point about the steadying sail. Im not sure about the spinnaker Greg is speculating on, and for sure Roberts analysis of inboard jets would be too heavy and way too much noise, not to mention their appetite for fuel.
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Post by Rolf »

A post script here...

With a 90 horse and ballast full, the 26 will handle the roughest conditions you can imagine at an effortless 11 knots-- no pounding. True motorboat feel. This is always with mast up (back up power!). I found both sails too labor intensive for the trailoring day sails I do, so just use the jib, genoa or geniker for simplicity when I want a singlehanded sailing fix. That way I can keep my comfortable 6'4" stainless bimini and dodger UP. The Mack can transform into anything you want it to-- just ask MadMike!

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Post by Frank C »

Rolf wrote:A post script here...

With a 90 horse and ballast full, the 26 will handle the roughest conditions you can imagine at an effortless 11 knots-- no pounding.
Actually, I think this basic, heavy weather performance of the Macgregor powersailer is the boat's real strength, but I don't think it requires 90 horsepower. Any outboard with a 14-inch prop can deliver solid 11-knot performance in those conditions, even my 60 hp.

Nonetheless, I can't deny that the big Tohatsu's 15" prop would be a nice-to-have bonus.
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Post by jda »

Just noticed this thread.

Duane - how did the summer go? Did you leave the mast off like you planned?

The closest and cheapest boat I've looked at as a power boat was the C-Dory made up in the Seattle area. They have two good user group forums/websites. One is the C-dogs the other the C-Brats. The primary C-Dory model is a 22' but they also have a 25'. Nice boat.

Still, not as inexpensive as the Mac, but cheaper than most power boats.

Another good one with the same basic design is the Osprey. Now that looks nice (and expensive).

Have any of you guys owned either of these? Let me know - I'd be curious.

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Post by Simon »

I have also been cosidering the C-Dory however the Mac seems to me a better option for me.

I wounder which is is more sea worthy?

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Greg
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Post by Greg »

Is the mast size (diameter not length) and type the same on an M and X? I'm wondering if the footprint is the same and if the M mast will fit in the X bracket. Also shipping comes in to play. Any recommendations on how to ship a mast coast to coast?

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Post by They Theirs »

Greg

The M mast is larger in both cases, but if you are interested in purchasing a bent mast like Richandloris, you might investigate having an independent trucker haul it. Maybe Scott knows best?
The base can be bought or manufactured to fit your boat for a stubby trawler mast made from whats left of Enterprise Seas bent spar.
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DLT
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Post by DLT »

The M's mast is significantly bigger than the X's. The M's also rotates. So, I'm not sure how well it would work for your X...
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Terry
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Post by Terry »

Greg,
There is a regular member on this board who lost his X mast and had it replaced with an M Mast without much trouble. Not sure who it is but I'm sure someone can remember and point you in that persons direction. then you can get some of the answers you need.
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Post by DLT »

That was TampaMac, as I recall... Yes, it can be done, but it is not a direct swap...

Well, I take it back, the foot may be compatible - I don't know...
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Post by They Theirs »

DLT

I believe Tampa Mac, as I recall. Upgraded some chain plate positions, and purchased the rig complete. The Head sail from the X is supposed to be similar. The main is larger for the larger spar. I think Greg is talking making a Trawler steadying sail, probably would be of little value to rotate.


Last time I recall... Tampa Mac was looking for people to race with! Said the new rig was fast.
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Greg
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Post by Greg »

Does andyone know the dimensions of the M mast. My X is 3x4". Mast does not have to rotate. I want to leave the original bracket in case I need to switch back to the X rigging.

Need to come up with better name than trawler.... powersailing cruiser?

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Post by waternwaves »

and ballast full, the 26 will handle the roughest conditions you can imagine at an effortless 11 knots-- no pounding
Admittedly, I do not have a 90 on the transom yet.....merely the 50

and probably my boat is loaded heavier than most.

But I cannot do 11 knots in "all" conditions

Off the west side of vancouver island, even in Haro and juan de fu@...

11 knots would be incredibly punishing....

8 knots shakes your teeth when the front of the boat drops 6 ft.

I guess I just dont know how to drive the boat...... :wink:
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