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Re: The Jet Ski Idea

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Divecoz wrote:The Jet Ski Idea
Has already come and gone not many seem to have been sold and you can pick them up now pretty cheap when you se them on the boards . That tells me they didnt work as well as hoped for. IMHO
Yeah, I used to own one. Had it for two years and it worked pretty good in calmer conditions in the backcountry of Florida Bay. I lived on Big Coppit Key about 6 miles North of Key West at the time.

http://www.shuttlecraft.com/

They put an insert into the back of the boat that is fitted to a particular waverunner model. It fit good and tight like a glove. You ride it in and friction kept it in place. You only had to push with the legs and the waverunner would slide right out and you were off.

I had a 1996 Yamaha waveventure (3 pax) with the 110 horsepower motor. I got the shuttlecraft in 1997 and sold it in 1999.

The waverunner would go 55 mph on its own and about 28 mph when pushing the shuttlecraft. The problems with the shuttlecraft were:

1. The area around the waverunner mount collected water as in the centerboard trunk of the MAC and was a big source of drag and hence limited its top speed.
2. The boat was not designed for the ocean and took water over the side when it got rough. I did take it out to the reefs on the Atlantic side when it was calm and it was great then.
3. The manufacture quality was on par or maybe even worse than the MAC.

To adapt this system to a sailboat would be a stretch but with clever design I think possible. A waverunner, I have a GP1300 Yamaha that puts out 165 hp and weighs about 700 pounds, would be a great powerplant although it is really thirsty - will drain the 13 gallon tank in an hour.

I have to say it was really nice to be able to cruise out some place, moor the big part with all your stuff in it, and then roar around on the waverunner to explore. And a stable 3 person waverunner is unbeatable as a dingy.
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Re: The Jet Ski Idea

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TampaMac wrote:I have a GP1300 Yamaha that puts out 165 hp and weighs about 700 pounds, would be a great powerplant although it is really thirsty - will drain the 13 gallon tank in an hour.
It sounds like you need to beef up the bow eye and turn the Mac into a dinghy behind this beast. :D
TampaMac wrote:I have to say it was really nice to be able to cruise out some place, moor the big part with all your stuff in it, and then roar around on the waverunner to explore. And a stable 3 person waverunner is unbeatable as a dingy.
How well does a jet ski tow behind a Mac?

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Moe,

I'm not sure how the waverunner I have now would tow. Probably pretty badly.

At low speed the thing almost submarines with the bow below the water.

I bought the GP1300 because it was the coolest fastest one you could buy at the time (now they have a couple with 215 horsepower). It was a real bad choice. It is fast, goes about 64-65 mph on GPS (spend another 2K and it will go 75 mph). But it is completely unstable and it is hard to take a rider without falling over on occasion. It is built for speed and manuverability rather then usefulness.

If I had it to do over again I'd have bought a three person waverunner that was more stable. That 1996 Waveventure I had was a gem. I took it everywhere. It was great with two persons, and OK with three. A big stable waverunner is the way to go if you are going to get one.
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What is really interesting is the HUGE loophole these folks have found to help you 'fund' your purchase... look HERE.

Essentially, you buy the boat, and a 'sales kit', sign an independent sales associate agreement, and you can write-off the entire depreciation of the boat - plus all your 'expenses' in showing the boat (gas, etc.) - against your federal taxes. Sounds like basically a free boat!

Now if MacGregor could only start such a tax dodge!
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I would dare say that many of us on this baord would already qualify as "sales persons" for Mac.

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I would dare say that many of us on this baord would already qualify as "sales persons" for Mac.

In fact, I am MacGregor Boat Purchasing and Outfitting Consultant. As such, I will start wrtiting off associated expenses of sail trips to better inform my customer base 8)

So do you think the IRS will buy it?



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You guys ARE writing off the interest on the boat as a 2nd home mortgage deduction, right?

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Shuttlecraft is a Canadian company.

They sell factory direct from Canada. They probably can make any claim they want on US Taxes without being held accountable.

Um.... Now that I think about it they are right, I need to write off that MacGregor depreciation......
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Moe wrote:You guys ARE writing off the interest on the boat as a 2nd home mortgage deduction, right?-- Moe
Sure, but that's not like writing it down on depreciation - pluse expenses! Heck you could probably do both (mortgage and depreciation).

[uummm.. but you might want to check with your tax attorney first!]

I plan on demonstrating my boat to my wife... then each of my children... over and over again... pereptually paying for my gas!
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