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Re: Sailing with technology - Ipad

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Sumner wrote:Interesting, what makes it different than say one of the navigation programs that are either free or that you pay for on a pc where you just click, click, click and have a route and information about the route right there and can easily transfer to another device such as a chart plotter in a few seconds or use on the pc?
From a cost issue, there are a number of free charting apps on the iPad (but not the good ones, which do cost). Also, iPads are no more expensive than an equivalent PC or laptop once you've included the necessary accessories to use.

But from a user interface perspective, here's why:

Physical interface:
I happen to know you've got a nice custom 12VDC low power PC on your boat that is a strong contender for being as efficient as an iPad, but you still must have a surface to run your mouse on an a separate monitor. I can carry the iPad with me from my house to the cockpit to the cabin to the berth and do not need to transfer data anywhere because I can transfer the device. I can plan my trip at home on a device that I can also use as a chartplotter (although I do use and recommend dedicated charplotters for other reasons).

Logical Interface:
When I click on a chart with a mouse and then drag to another area, did I intend to pan the view, or was I drawing a course between point (a) and point (b)? It's nebulous and it varies widely by application. On an iPad, it always means panning, always, and in every application. Does scrolling the mouse wheel mean I'm zooming, or is it panning in the Y axis, or what? On an ipad, zooming is always pinching/stretching your fingers. How to I rotate the map on a PC? Find the little compass rose and rotate that? Click a clockwise or counter clockwise arrow? On an iPad, it's two fingers and rotate.

Human Interface:
The bottom line for me is that despite having adopted the mouse wholeheartedly in 1984 with the 128K original Macs, and having purchased my first "touch" tablet in 1999 (a toshiba convertible laptop--quite the device in its time) and then writing off the concept of touch interfaces as pointless, the iPad just works so well with its multitouch U/I that you don't have to learn what anything means. There's no instructions, no help, just look at the device and work it. Far less learning.

I've found as I age that I'm not really resistant to change, I'm resistant to learning pointless things. When something actually works more intuitively, it's easy to adopt, and then I get just as crotchety about having to go back to more primitive interfaces.

I've got a touch-screen Sony PC that is largely ignored in the office. I'm going to install Windows 8 on it now that the release version is available and I've played with the release candidate in a VM. I'll make an attempt with it, but I honestly think that I'm done with PCs. I've been a professional IT guy for 25 years, but it's high time my job has been eliminated by hardware that doesn't break and software that just works.

Having said all that, I've realized that I might just really like the user interface of paper charts best of all :D

P.S. I'm not by any means a "windows hater" or an Apple apologist. I've written 16 books about Windows and make the vast majority of my income supporting Windows: http://www.amazon.com/Matthew-Strebe/e/ ... sr=1-2-ent
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I've found as I age that I'm not really resistant to change, I'm resistant to learning pointless things. When something actually works more intuitively, it's easy to adopt, and then I get just as crotchety about having to go back to more primitive interfaces.
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XD100 should fix that squeaky rockin chair

Lime green polyester is making a comeback with the younger crowd, so yer ahead of the curve... again! :D
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mastreb wrote:
, it's easy to adopt, and then I get just as crotchety about having to go back to more primitive interfaces.

I've got a touch-screen Sony PC that is largely ignored in the office. I'm going to install Windows 8 on it now that the release version is available and I've played with the release candidate in a VM. I'll make an attempt with it, but I honestly think that I'm done with PCs. I've been a professional IT guy for 25 years, but it's high time my job has been eliminated by hardware that doesn't break and software that just works.

Having said all that, I've realized that I might just really like the user interface of paper charts best of all :D

P.S. I'm not by any means a "windows hater" or an Apple apologist. I've written 16 books about Windows and make the vast majority of my income supporting Windows: http://www.amazon.com/Matthew-Strebe/e/ ... sr=1-2-ent
I doubt a touch screen on a desktop will be as effective as an IPad or tablet.
I thought purchasing a laptop computer would allow me to sit anywhere comfortably in my house and still be online. Wrong! It was the IPad purchase that allowed me to sit anywhere, with the touchscreen interface, small footprint, and longer running time via improved battery capacity.

I do miss the right-mouse-click now and then, among other minor things.
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I use my iPad for about 80% of my computer use now. Anytime I'm not creating something, the iPad is easier and at-hand.

Recently I purchased Final Draft for iPad and I'm actually working on a screenplay on it, which will be the first time I've "made" something with it.

The on-screen keyboard is remarkably functional once you power through and get used to typing without feedback. I'm up to about 45 wpm (my comfortable keyboarding speed is about 90wpm, and was 120 when I was writing all the time).
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mastreb wrote:P.S. I'm not by any means a "windows hater" or an Apple apologist. I've written 16 books about Windows and make the vast majority of my income supporting Windows: http://www.amazon.com/Matthew-Strebe/e/ ... sr=1-2-ent
Hey I have some of your books in a box in the basement. Cool
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Spector wrote:Hey I have some of your books in a box in the basement. Cool
High praise indeed!
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Think I've read some of number two during the last of my working years. Missed number one!
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I sure do like the that program mastreb turned me on to for my IPAD - it looks just like the paper charts I used to haul around. It was only 50 bucks. That's less than three paper charts.
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