Running lines to Cockpit and other ideas to make sailing easier

[Sheppie62]

Ok I’ve got the sail installed had to buy this;




I bought these also ,haven’t read the instructions yet, but if anyone can show me a complete set up of all lines led back to cockpit, that would be great,

[Jimmyt]

Looks like you only have the boom hardware. Does your boat already have blocks on the boom, mast, and deck to lead them to the cockpit (and cleats/clutches to secure them)?

Congrats on getting the main tack sorted!

[Russ]

The outhaul and reefing terminate on the end of the boom. Nothing back to the cockpit of sorts like halyards and sheets.
These don't get messed with often and the cam cleats are on the end of the boom.

[Sheppie62]

Thanks Jimmy and Russ. I do not have anything but those BWY kits. I plan on buying the rest of the stuff soon. I was hoping I could make the single line reefing work from the cockpit soon. So which lines normally get brought back to the cockpit and where? I have roller furling from factory.

[Russ]

Thanks Jimmy and Russ. I do not have anything but those BWY kits. I plan on buying the rest of the stuff soon. I was hoping I could make the single line reefing work from the cockpit soon. So which lines normally get brought back to the cockpit and where? I have roller furling from factory.

Reefing is not a simple task and not doable from the cockpit anyway because you need to also use the ties on the sail around the boom. ALWAYS best done before heading out.

We have main halyard lead back to the cockpit. Sound good in theory, but I always manage to snag something on the mast cleats and I end up going up there anyway. Also, pulling it down. I've seen the halyard as a loop and can be pulled down from the cockpit that way.

Before the furling headsail, had the jib halyard coming back to the cockpit.

Now just main halyard and dagger board come back. And genny sheets on the cockpit tracks.

[Jimmyt]

Single-line reefing should be doable from the cockpit, if you have the topping lift and the halyard run to the cockpit in addition to the single-line reefing. See article for discussion and diagram.

https://www.sailboat-cruising.com/singl ... efing.html

As Russ indicates, making all of this actually work when sailing is the trick.

[Sheppie62]

Like the halyard in a loop idea . My fear is having tangled lines everywhere. The BWY guy said the slugs sewn directly on to the sail tend to catch while lowering sail, said the 2 piece plastic slugs work better. I have sewn ones. Also heard someone say full batten sails have a harder time sliding down as well, that’s what I have.

[Highlander]

Something else for U to ponder on , my inboom outhaul




in this pic after the wind picked up I could,nt tighten my outhaul enough without heading upwind



So I fabricated my 6-1 inboom outhaul for my foot loose mainsail

J

[Sheppie62]

Thanks Highlander, that is really nice. How does that work, doesn’t look too complicated.

[Russ]

Reefing lines to the cockpit is doable per Jimmy's link above.

I'm a wimp and prefer to either use the iron genny when winds are that bad or do all that reefing at the dock/mooring before heading out.

I looked for Jim's video of the looped main halyard. The video is now defunct. It was clever and I may implement it myself soon,
A loop back to the cockpit. This with lazyjacks would seem to be an ideal solution to mainsail handling. I should make this a winter project as I hate going up on deck.

[Jimmyt]

A few pics and narrative regarding looped main halyard... for those like me that aren't familiar with it.

https://albergsailboats.org/about-the-t ... -main.html

[Sheppie62]

What are these circled for? So i’m thinking about main Halyard & downhaul (looped) coming back to cockpit, boom vang line back to cockpit (with a boom kicker), single line reefing back to cockpit, Genoa furling line is already to cockpit, and center board as well. Does this sound like a good idea? And if so where do I put the rope clutches? So maybe main halyard/ down haul in front of right winch so they can be winched, and boom vang/ single line reef on left side in front of winch. Would I need a rope clutch for the down haul?

[NiceAft]

When I ran my lines aft, I did it the simplest way I could think of.

For the lines coming down the mast (topping lift, main sail, halyard in front of the mast) I placed this


I ran the lines starboard through an organizer.


And then aft to a clutch.


The clutch accommodates four lines because I also ran the daggerboard line to it.

I don’t have a reefing system, so no need to accompany any lines.

The furling line for my CDI runs down the port side to a jam cleat.

This simple system was easy to install, and has worked well for me for several years.

[Sheppie62]

Thanks Nice Aft, where did you get the organizer and the clutches etc. I found this diagram most likely for a larger boat. What do you guys think of this, obviously don’t need them all.

[NiceAft]

I believe the organizer was a Schaefer product. I don’t remember who made the rope clutch for four lines. Mine does have different color handles, but I can’t swear it’s the Garhauer in the photo.

The stand up swivel for three lines is definitely a Schaefer.

NiceAft is too wrapped up, and it’s too cold to have a look see.

Even though the products we all use may be different, I’m sure the layout we all have is similar. Our boats are only so big.