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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 5:00 pm
by Bill at BOATS 4 SAIL
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 5:23 pm
by Moe
Thanks, guys.... got it... J=10.08' and I=24.75'.
Foretriangle is 96% of working jib.
Should be the same for the M since it uses the same foresails.
Thanks again.
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Moe
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 7:13 pm
by Moe
We were also considering the water-ballast Hunter 260 (since discontinued) and Catalina 250 when we looked at Macs. Wish I'd saved the Hunter 260 spec web page. In the end, none compared to the X for what we wanted.
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Moe
Hunter 260 specs
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 8:16 pm
by Terry
Moe, here's a link to the Hunter 260 specs:
Specs
http://www.nboat.com/hunterboats/hunter260/
Article
http://www.sailnet.com/sailing/99/btmay99.htm
more specs
http://www.sailaction.com/hunter260.html
It costs substantially more than a Mac, looks like it has good potential, too bad about the 10hp engine capacity.
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 8:29 pm
by Moe
Thanks, Terry. Got 'em saved to the hard drive.
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Moe
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 8:56 pm
by Moe
The 260 trailering weight is only about 40% of what we tow now, and 8' shorter. It is about 6" wider, and taller, though. Doesn't take a semi...
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Moe
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 9:39 pm
by Frank C
Moe wrote:Thanks, guys.... got it... J=10.08' and I=24.75'.
Foretriangle is 96% of working jib.
Should be the same for the M since it uses the same foresails.
Not to be contentious ... rather, just conscientious ... I'm still puzzled by the 26M. Yes, it uses the same foresails, but ...
Read again
TampsMac's thread, X with M-rig. The J measure is definitely longer, and the forestay is also longer than the forestay of an X-boat. The rig just cannot measure the same. I don't understand the actual impact of its using the the identical foresails, but the 150 Genoa must really be a "140-somethin."
" ... does not compute ... does not compute ... does not compute...
basically, I'm STILL just a thoroughly confused_unit!
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 4:40 am
by Moe
Given that the I and J are not published specifications, as they would be from a real "yacht" manufacturer, I left those cells user-editable. They just default to the specs above.
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Moe
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 12:34 pm
by Tom Spohn
I wouldn't be surprised if the "J" dimension is different for both boats:
1. The mast rake on the X is maybe 3 degrees more pronounced than on the M. This would place the clew of the X jib more aft than the M.
2. The dimension from the front tip of the boat to the root of the mast may be different as well. Need some guys with tape measures to check this out. If different, this may account at least in part for why the M is happier sailing just with the main.
3. Just eyeballing the pictures in the Mac Sales Brochures (I have both the X and M) seems to confirm no. 1. above.