So how long does it take you to rig ?
- MarkStanton
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So how long does it take you to rig ?
So after recent discussion I thought I would see where I sit on the normal distribution curve for Rig Times.
All regularly acheivable times measured from arriving at slip fully legal from the road with License plate attached etc to Sailing/Motoring away with all rigging up and sails ready to hoist.
All regularly acheivable times measured from arriving at slip fully legal from the road with License plate attached etc to Sailing/Motoring away with all rigging up and sails ready to hoist.
- Sloop John B
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Mark,
This one has been beat to death with high emotions. When you first start out it's going to take a long time. Later, you'll cut that in half, and improve each time remembering your mistakes and recognizing more efficiency.
Depending on your athletic ability, it will run between 20 minutes and a little over an hour.
For me, there's always something. Last time, I had the damn furler cover on upside down. Too tight at the top to pull down. How it got up, I donno? That cost me over 20 minutes.
It takes me so long I don't day sail. To launch and recover on the same day, the rigging and de-rigging uses up too much time. Especially as we begin to get into these short winter days. I have to look for a weather window where I can sail around here and there for several days.
I have hundreds of dollars of add on shortcuts in the way of snap shackles and pelican hooks. Now I'm adding a brake drum washout system with a portable pump that's going to up the clock about ten minutes.
Dimitri and Chip get into in once in a while on this subject. I like Chip, but I agree with Dimitri because I'm anxious to get in the water and the sun shoots across the sky. It can be very tiring when you get older and it's a hundred degrees in the shade.
This one has been beat to death with high emotions. When you first start out it's going to take a long time. Later, you'll cut that in half, and improve each time remembering your mistakes and recognizing more efficiency.
Depending on your athletic ability, it will run between 20 minutes and a little over an hour.
For me, there's always something. Last time, I had the damn furler cover on upside down. Too tight at the top to pull down. How it got up, I donno? That cost me over 20 minutes.
It takes me so long I don't day sail. To launch and recover on the same day, the rigging and de-rigging uses up too much time. Especially as we begin to get into these short winter days. I have to look for a weather window where I can sail around here and there for several days.
I have hundreds of dollars of add on shortcuts in the way of snap shackles and pelican hooks. Now I'm adding a brake drum washout system with a portable pump that's going to up the clock about ten minutes.
Dimitri and Chip get into in once in a while on this subject. I like Chip, but I agree with Dimitri because I'm anxious to get in the water and the sun shoots across the sky. It can be very tiring when you get older and it's a hundred degrees in the shade.
- Dimitri-2000X-Tampa
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A problem with a poll like this is that you really need to define exactly what you mean by "rig". For example, someone with hank-on sails versus furler/slugs is going to have a much shorter rig time, but more time on the water hoisting sails. Also, if you don't use a bimini for example, that will cut a few minutes off. If you have covers for everything (like my helm cover and main sail cover) that you have to take off, that adds a minute here and there.
Also, you mention that putting the boat in the water is part of this time. Again, big variabilities depending on whether you are alone, or have a helper. Also, whether there is a good dock nearby or not, how far you have to park the car, etc.
And finally, the issue about whether you are in a hurry or not. I'm sure I could cut my time in half or less if my life depended on it
But since you ask what is regularly acheivable , I've answered 1.25 hours...and I only do it a few times per year. Doing it a few times per month would certainly speed things up as has been noted in other threads.
Also, you mention that putting the boat in the water is part of this time. Again, big variabilities depending on whether you are alone, or have a helper. Also, whether there is a good dock nearby or not, how far you have to park the car, etc.
And finally, the issue about whether you are in a hurry or not. I'm sure I could cut my time in half or less if my life depended on it
But since you ask what is regularly acheivable , I've answered 1.25 hours...and I only do it a few times per year. Doing it a few times per month would certainly speed things up as has been noted in other threads.
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Miquel
It's true that with the practice, time to rig goes down. But up to now, I have not been able to do it in less than 1 hour (I began with almost 2
). This was also a determining factor when we decided to leave our Culzean in the water in The Netherlands from April to October, taking it out only for the summer holidays.
We normally leave the side stays "connected", but take out the boom and genoa in the furler. We also have to return the lines for the flags to their normal place, re-connect the electricals from the mast, put again the windex and antenna in the top of the mast,.....
I would really like to cut the time to 30 minutes, but I don't see the way. Does anyone leave the boom in place? If so, how do you do it? I was told when I bought my VHF that it was better to take out the antenna every time that I want to trailer the boat, because they suffer a lot from vibrations. Is there someone that leaves it when trailering long distances without any problem?
Which are the "critical paths" to go to those 30 - 45 minutes?
Fair winds,
Miquel
Culzean
We normally leave the side stays "connected", but take out the boom and genoa in the furler. We also have to return the lines for the flags to their normal place, re-connect the electricals from the mast, put again the windex and antenna in the top of the mast,.....
I would really like to cut the time to 30 minutes, but I don't see the way. Does anyone leave the boom in place? If so, how do you do it? I was told when I bought my VHF that it was better to take out the antenna every time that I want to trailer the boat, because they suffer a lot from vibrations. Is there someone that leaves it when trailering long distances without any problem?
Which are the "critical paths" to go to those 30 - 45 minutes?
Fair winds,
Miquel
Culzean
boom
in the first few years with "surprise" i left the boom in place when lowering the mast. resulted in a broken gooseneck connector (the black cast iron part that attaches the boon to the gosseneck). fortunatly this happened when havencraft of new england were still in the business, and art rieders sent me a spare part within 1 week (shipping cost from usa to germany was 10 times the price of the parts). i always disconnect my boom since.
- Jeff S
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Just went sailing- boat was in slip but I put it on the trailer when I was done- 34 min derig to drive off time. I did things like remove the GPS MAP as I was approaching the marina. I could have gone faster if I put the sail cover on too but I was single handing with my 2 little girls aboard.
Jeff S.
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Quantity vs Quality
I always keep in mind it's a matter of Quantity versus Quality....
I don't care how long it takes to rig and then de-rig.... it's the quality of sailing time and family time.... and just being out on the water... beats anything else.
At the time I arrive at the launch it takes me 20 minutes to rig and launch(30 if I get tangled in the wires or lines). It use to take 45 minutes before because I would be running all the lines and hooking up the boom and sail.
I have a roller furler with sheets and halyards attached and I keep the boom with sail (I've got sails slugs) and cover attached all the time. (I did have the gooseneck reinforced at a local welding shop) Basically I just push the mast back, attach the raising pole and put it up. I usually rig the thing myself and have the family show up with the food about 30 minutes later.
I don't care how long it takes to rig and then de-rig.... it's the quality of sailing time and family time.... and just being out on the water... beats anything else.
At the time I arrive at the launch it takes me 20 minutes to rig and launch(30 if I get tangled in the wires or lines). It use to take 45 minutes before because I would be running all the lines and hooking up the boom and sail.
I have a roller furler with sheets and halyards attached and I keep the boom with sail (I've got sails slugs) and cover attached all the time. (I did have the gooseneck reinforced at a local welding shop) Basically I just push the mast back, attach the raising pole and put it up. I usually rig the thing myself and have the family show up with the food about 30 minutes later.
