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Halyards back to cockpit - 26M- Rotating Mast
Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 6:25 pm
by Cato
Has anyone set up their 26M with halyards roving back to the cockpit.
some of the issues Im trying to work through with the rotating mast
1: Mast Exit Sheaves - all forward?
2: Mast base to accommodate first turning block
3: Rope Clutch Base to be built up so leading onto the winch.
Or am I better off to re rig the Mast as a non rotating and set up with exit sheaves on each side of the mast?
thanks
Paul
Re: Halyards back to cockpit - 26M- Rotating Mast
Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 6:39 pm
by Paul S
led the main halyard back no problem
some pictures here
http://seeberg.com/mac26m/web4/index.html
I have a block at the base of the mast, doubled up the cheek block to bring the sheet back to the cockpit to a cleat
Pretty simple system.
Re: Halyards back to cockpit - 26M- Rotating Mast
Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 12:33 am
by Mac26Mpaul
Going to copy that one

Thanks Paul
Re: Halyards back to cockpit - 26M- Rotating Mast
Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 1:50 am
by Cato
Thanks Paul
that looks great - does the base ever squash the side of the shackle?
I was wondering if a tang could be fitted to the mast to step bolt ... and then block onto that... hmmmmm?
Paul
Re: Halyards back to cockpit - 26M- Rotating Mast
Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 5:38 am
by Paul S
what I did works perfectly. No undue stress on any of the hardware.
I guess you could put a tang, but it works well in the hole for the mast raiser post. I also drilled a couple other holes in the step to try in different spots, but use the factory hole. The pictures show the block in one of the holes I drilled. I figured out later that the mast raising pole bolt holes forward of the mast works well..and is easier to put the block on as well. The geometry is still the same, but of course rig it and rotate the mast and check to ensure everything is clear.
The factory length main halyard is just long enough to reach the cockpit. Others report you need a new (longer) halyard. But mine just made it back
At least on our boat, the bolts holding the cheek turning block were long enough to stack the second block on top of it without a problem. The hardest part (not really hard) is to remove all the foam to access the nuts..and you need a helper to hold the nuts while turning the bolt. I have seen others who just run the line to a block on the base of a stancion, which will work, but you may need a new main halyard. I think the way I did it is more elegant/simple, and not a tripping hazard.
I intentionally did not put the cleat in line with the winch. I don't think it is a good idea to put that much strenght pulling up the main. If you can't do it with your own strength, there is a problem
Putting the jam cleat for the daggerboard is one of the best and easiest mods to do. So you don't have to hold the daggerboard line while cleating it off. I also relocated the factory cleat so you could more secure the DB for trailering...also in the pictures
Re: Halyards back to cockpit - 26M- Rotating Mast
Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 7:35 am
by Hamin' X
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Re: Halyards back to cockpit - 26M- Rotating Mast
Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 8:08 am
by c130king
Here are some pics of the turning blocks I have to run my halyard back to the cockpit. The halyard is the double blue line on the starboard side. One line pulls the main up and the other pulls the main down.
The white line on the port side is my single-line Jiffy reef which is also run back to the cockpit.
Good luck.
Cheers,
Jim
Sailing on König
Sailing on König YouTube Channel
Re: Halyards back to cockpit - 26M- Rotating Mast
Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 8:15 am
by Doug W
c130king wrote:Here are some pics of the turning blocks I have to run my halyard back to the cockpit. The halyard is the double blue line on the starboard side. One line pulls the main up and the other pulls the main down.
Jim, do you have any close up pics of the second set of double blocks which direct the lines aft? They look like they are track mounted?
Re: Halyards back to cockpit - 26M- Rotating Mast
Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 8:39 am
by c130king
Doug,
Been digging through my photos to see if I have a good pic. Couldn't find one. But here is a link to WestMarine with something close.
Double Turning Block
It is a stacked double turning block with some sort of base plate to mount it to the deck. The blocks are oriented laying down. So the lines come through the vertical spring loaded turning blocks you can see in my photo at the base of the mast then run straight to the side where they hit my stacked double turning block which turns the lines back towards the cockpit.
They are mounted just outside the hatch sliding track. They are not track mounted but screwed into the deck.
Cheers,
Jim
Sailing on König
Sailing on König YouTube Channel
Re: Halyards back to cockpit - 26M- Rotating Mast
Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 12:45 am
by Cato
HI Jim
thanks for the pics - "I see the light" easier now understanding with the halyards loads are up at the blocks on top of the mast - there is ample room to allow for the rotation if block placement is in the right spot.
Paul
Re: Halyards back to cockpit - 26M- Rotating Mast
Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 5:16 am
by c130king
Cato,
You notice I have two blue lines. One is the halyard and the other is my "haul down". The halyard runs through the sheave at the top of the mast and then down to the top of the head board. The "haul down" runs up from that turning block on the deck next to the mast and then up to the top most sail slug. It is used to pull the main down from the cockpit. This blue line is one single 75' long combined halyard/"haul down".
Works great. Watch this video below and you can see me lower the main down into the lazy jacks while sitting in the cockpit.
Roller Furling and Lazy Jacks
Cheers,
Jim
Sailing on König
Re: Halyards back to cockpit - 26M- Rotating Mast
Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 5:21 am
by c130king
Doug W wrote:c130king wrote:Here are some pics of the turning blocks I have to run my halyard back to the cockpit. The halyard is the double blue line on the starboard side. One line pulls the main up and the other pulls the main down.
Jim, do you have any close up pics of the second set of double blocks which direct the lines aft? They look like they are track mounted?
Doug, does this pic help any? If you zoom in you can see the double-stacked stainless turning blocks for the halyard/"haul down".
Cheers,
Jim
Re: Halyards back to cockpit - 26M- Rotating Mast
Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 6:27 am
by baldbaby2000
My dealer just put a block on the mast base bracket. I think he drilled a hole so as to not use a mast raiser hole. It was relatively easy and the mast seems to rotate OK.

Re: Halyards back to cockpit - 26M- Rotating Mast
Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 1:10 am
by Cato
Hi Jim
very good video
are they lazy Jacks or Lazy Jims?
great.. set up
Paul
Re: Halyards back to cockpit - 26M- Rotating Mast
Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 4:05 am
by c130king
Cato wrote: are they lazy Jacks or Lazy Jims?
Good one...the word that best represents me is "lazy" (no Stephen, it is not "panty hose"...

)
Actually the Lazy Jacks came from the original owner. I modified them to make them easier to put up and take down. Up until this Spring I was solo 95% of the time so I appreciated how easy the LJ system, furler system, halyard/"haul down" system, single line reefing system, and lines led to the cockpit made my single-handed outings.
Now, I have all these new friends that want to mooch rides with me...

(just kidding Chris and Pedro...anytime you want to go sailing just let me know).
Cheers,
Jim
Sailing on König