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Galley Hand Pump

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:51 am
by kurz
Hello
The Hand pump in the galley of my new is leaking very much.

When pumping, water just comes out on the top at the right, but even worse under the galley. So the system is not to use because of this.

Can you repair the hand pump? Do you have an idea how to solve?

thanks - Kurz from Switzerland.

Re: Galley Hand Pump

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:59 am
by robbarnes1965
Hi Kurz,

I have the same problem. I think it's just a quality issue. It's also incredibly annoying to wash your hands. I have been thinking of replacing it with the electric version for a while.

ROb

Re: Galley Hand Pump

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 5:59 pm
by Ivan Awfulitch
My understanding is that repair parts are available, but your best bet is to simply buy a new pump and replace it. The newer ones have a "lock" feature which keeps the pump from losing prime while not in use. You can get them for about $20 at an RV retailer. Much nicer and more durable than the factory pumps.

Re: Galley Hand Pump

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 3:39 am
by telwin
probably its better to replace it, i replaced mine which was always leaking from the base and very annoying.
I have an electrical pump which was fitted by the previous owner :macx:

Re: Galley Hand Pump

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 6:24 am
by kmclemore
I don't have an M, so I don't know which pump is supplied to that model, but the X pump is very simple and not much can really go wrong with it - I suspect the M pump is similar. If so, it sounds to me like you have a crack in the housing or a bad o-ring seal. If it's just a seal you should be able to easily disassemble the pump and replace it. If it's a cracked housing, the pump is scrap and you should buy a new one. They are not very expensive.

Having said that, if the boat is truly 'new' - in other words, you just bought it from a dealer - you should have this replaced for free under the warranty, assuming you have not damaged the pump by misuse.

ON EDIT:

OK, so I found a picture of the pump in question: http://www.macgregor26.com/suppliers_co ... galley.pdf
I found this in the Mac Suppliers List, here (under "Hardware Marine Standard"): http://www.macgregor26.com/suppliers_co ... _list.html

So it looks like I am right, it is the same or very similar to the one supplied to the X (a "Whale Flipper Pump"). In which case, remove the pump from the galley sink, unscrew the bottom of the pump and you can disassemble the entire pump and replace the seals... you should be able to find the seals at any good hardware store - they are just simple o-rings. Lubricate the pump seals lightly with a thin coat of petroleum jelly or silicone lubricant.

If you do have to replace the pump, before you buy one you might want to ask here if anyone has one going spare because they've removed theirs when they upgraded to a pressure-fed system. I upgraded my boat to an electric pump, and I later gave away my pump to one of our members.

(BTW, hope you don't mind but I corrected your spelling and your thread title to make it easier for future searches).

Re: Galley Hand Pump

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 4:50 am
by cruiser
Kurz,
Sounds like your pump may be the same as the pump on my 26S. The following is a thread discussing my problems and how I fixed them (with photos).
http://forums.macgregor.sailboatowners. ... p?t=125103

Re: Galley Hand Pump

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 2:24 pm
by pokerrick1
What Kevin said (as usual) - - - I guess I was lucky; I never had a problem with my manual pump on my 2006 M - - - but if I had a problem I would have replaced it with the electric model - - - much easier to use.

Rick

Re: Galley Hand Pump

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 2:30 pm
by Boblee
Never had a problem except I think the spout came out but must have been easy fix, it is only there for emergencies and bypasses the filters (too much suction needed), our water is supplied by the electric one beside it, think also I had trouble fixing a hose to the bottom of the existing hand pump.

Re: Galley Hand Pump

Posted: Thu May 31, 2012 10:12 am
by robbarnes1965
I just found a solution to my rapidly failing galley pump. My intention is to attach it with just long enough tubes to keep it in galley when I don't need it and take it out and lay it on the floor when I do. I will try and post a mod pic/vid when I get it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVA1R72Leqw
http://www.whalepumps.com/rv/product.as ... t-operated

Re: Galley Hand Pump

Posted: Thu May 31, 2012 7:41 pm
by cruiser
Just for future reference I re-conitioned my original Whale Pump. Only difficult part was popping the handle out (arrowed in photo), so I built a frame (photo attached) to hold it in the vice whilst I pried the shaft out gently with a screw driver. Ended up using an O-ring from a home garden click on tap fitting. The origianl O-ring was 9.5mm ID x 13mm OD and I replaced it with 8.0mm ID x 12mm OD (from a female hose end). In other words the replacement O-ring was 2mm thick v's original O-ring at 1.75mm thick. Bit of vaseline on everything and no problems since.


Sorry - don't seem to be able to attach photos on this site unless they are in a web album? is that correct? - mine are still on the hard disk but reduced enough in size to be able to post on other web forums.
Edit: Just to clarify - my pump is one of these http://www.macgregor26.com/suppliers_co ... galley.pdf

Re: Galley Hand Pump

Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 5:43 am
by Divecoz
IMHO toss the hand pump.. a small electric is much more convenient and easier to use .
1 draw back. You can easily enough use a lot more water with an electric pump. Go Figure :o

Re: Galley Hand Pump

Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:03 pm
by badchild
Maybe I didn't click all the link. Anybody can post a link of a good electric pump for the 26M? thanks

Re: Galley Hand Pump

Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 9:41 pm
by Divecoz
Lots of pumps out there and lots of prices as well .. West Marine Defender dozens of outlets.. Even RV outlets carry 12 Volts water pumps..
IMHO! Low Volume pump means less water wasted!!

Re: Galley Hand Pump

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 6:01 am
by Sumner
Divecoz wrote:IMHO toss the hand pump.. a small electric is much more convenient and easier to use .
1 draw back. You can easily enough use a lot more water with an electric pump. Go Figure :o
Yep, if you are going out on short trips the electric is fine but for longer trips I would sure stay with the hand pump and you will use a lot less water. We replaced the failed on on the S with one of the ones that were mentioned where you don't loose the prime and really like it. We can carry a little over 40 gallons and go a month on that, but the hand pump is key to doing that.

We have an electric in our teardrop trailer, but it is easy to get water for it. We do use....

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http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner ... ide-8.html

...an electric on the boat to transfer water from...

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http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner ... -16-a.html

... the different tanks to the one ...

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.... that feeds the sink and this also helps to keep the boat trimmed out better. More here....

http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner ... index.html

Sum

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Re: Galley Hand Pump

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 8:15 am
by Québec 1
This is an excellent thread on electric water. http://www.macgregorsailors.com/forum/v ... r&start=30 As you look at my sink you will see a plastic basin. The insertion of this innovative passive mod in the sink prevents anyone from using more than a basin full of water at a time. It saves a significant volume of water as it holds less than half the volume of the sink and seems full enough when it's half full.
Q1