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backing off a straight dock with very strong wind abeam outboard
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 11:05 am
by Herschel
Recently I was getting underway under power from a straight dock (not a slip or finger pier) with about 15 knots abeam on the outboard side. Pic applies even though not a great pic for this purpose. Normally I do all my maneuvering at a dock with all three blades in the water. Due to uncertainty about water depth at the dock, I had pulled the centerboard up part way before docking. Failing to redeploy the centerboard fully, I initially attempted to get underway going forward to turn into the wind, but the boat just could not overcome the force of the wind. Hit the "brake" before I piled into the boat ahead and began a backward turn to windward. The boat responded beautifully, swinging the bow around to leeward, but was more than 26 feet from the dock by then. No problem. Kept backing until I could lower centerboard and do a 180 to start forward toward the channel. Got me to wondering if I should have just done the backward start from the beginning even if the centerboard had been fully deployed. Any thoughts?

Re: backing off a straight dock with very strong wind abeam outboard
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 12:12 pm
by Be Free
With that much wind pressing you up against the dock backing into the wind was probably your best bet. The outboard can pull you away from the dock in those conditions but in order to turn away going forward you would (as you discovered) have to travel quite a distance parallel to the dock before you had enough steerage to be able to turn away from it.
Another option (if you could not back away) would be to leave your bow line attached and motor forward against it while turning toward the dock. The boat will pivot against the line (and dock) and move your stern away and into the wind. Throw off the bow line and reverse away until you can safely move forward.
I would not recommend reversing with the centerboard down if you are not sure there is enough depth for it. Going forward it will lift up but going backward you may snap it off or break the hanger.
Re: backing off a straight dock with very strong wind abeam outboard
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 12:13 pm
by Be Free
Is that Blue Springs?
Re: backing off a straight dock with very strong wind abeam outboard
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 1:07 pm
by Jimmyt
Absolutely agree with backing off under those conditions. Board up or down. Backing is the Magic when dealing with low-speed, cross-wind conditions. Although this is a 26X thread, the 26M behaves very much the same. The dagger board should be down slightly, but only as far as you're sure the depth will accommodate. Personally, I don't back in tight conditions, shallow or questionable depth, with rudders down. Steerage in reverse, using motor thrust only, will do the job. I'm pretty nervous about breaking a rudder.
Springing off the dock in reverse is a great tip (as would be expected, considering the source). It might prevent dragging the bow all over the dock as you try to reverse off with an on-dock wind.
I've been known to back from the ramp, out of the marina, and well into the river before transitioning to forward - if it's blowing pretty good. After they've seen a sailboat planing, almost nothing else surprises them. Besides a calm, controlled, departure in reverse looks a lot better than a panicky, wheel-sawing, dock banging departure with the bow going first.

Re: backing off a straight dock with very strong wind abeam outboard
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 8:34 pm
by Herschel
Springing off the dock in reverse is a great tip (as would be expected, considering the source). It might prevent dragging the bow all over the dock as you try to reverse off with an on-dock wind.
Yes, using a spring line to get the stern off the dock, and then backing on out did not occur to me. I've got to stop and analyze these situations more carefully. I know better; just getting lackadaisical about planning. Great tip. Thanks.

Re: backing off a straight dock with very strong wind abeam outboard
Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 8:19 am
by Be Free
Don't beat yourself up. It's easy to analyze a problem in hindsight with all of the facts laid out beforehand. It's harder to consistently do the right thing in a new situation while the events are still unfolding.
My boat and I both have the scars to attest to the fact that I don't always do things right the first time.

Re: backing off a straight dock with very strong wind abeam outboard
Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2023 12:56 pm
by OverEasy