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Crazy hatch idea (12v actuator)

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2024 1:28 pm
by Russ
I’m always raising and lowering the forward hatch.

I want it open when possible but it gets caught in headsail sheets so I need to go up and close it

First of all, Roger should have included an arm to hold the hatch open. πŸ™

I was thinking about a 12v actuator arm.
Could be wired to operate from the cockpit.

Doable or crazy?

https://www.amazon.com/VEVOR-Actuator-M ... B0CWNBRKWB

Re: Crazy hatch idea (12v actuator)

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2024 7:21 pm
by NiceAft
Russ you said
First of all, Roger should have included an arm to hold the hatch open. πŸ™
Does this mean that your forward hatch is either open, or closed. Am I misunderstanding that there is no sliding strut to hold the hatch partially open. What am I missing? What is the arm you refer to? I understand how an electrical strut would be cool to have.

Re: Crazy hatch idea (12v actuator)

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2024 10:14 pm
by OverEasy
Hi All!

Yeah, it appears that several years of MacGregors came without a front hatch prop rod.
A PO installed a BWY twist clamp adjustable prop rod… it sorta works but requires the use of a pair of pliers to get it clamped and un clamped. Can be a PITA :o :| though…..

One of the next offseason TBD Mods is replacing it with something more practical and useful.

Hi Russ!
The 12 VDC actuator is a novel approach!πŸ€” I like it!
If you go that route I’d love to see how you chose to implement it!πŸ‘

Best Regards
Over Easy 😎😎🐩🐈

Re: Crazy hatch idea (12v actuator)

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2024 5:55 am
by Russ
NiceAft wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 7:21 pm Does this mean that your forward hatch is either open, or closed. Am I misunderstanding that there is no sliding strut to hold the hatch partially open.
To creat boats that were affordable with a low price point, Roger kept hardware to a minimum. Boat came with no accessories allowing dealers to customize them.

My boat came with no strut to hold the hatch open. The latch was also one of the cheapest/junkiest I've ever seen. So I replaced the latch and added a strut.

We keep the hatch open all the time until we deploy the headsail where sheets can get tangled in the hatch.

These actuators I found on Amazon appear to be similar to the hatch arm, so I thought maybe it would work as a hatch arm.
Here is someone who did it with an engine cover hatch. https://www.instructables.com/How-to-ma ... atch-Lift/

This is what I have now.

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Re: Crazy hatch idea (12v actuator)

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2024 8:24 am
by Jimmyt
Crazy like a fox! I love it! Hope you try it.

Mine didn’t come with any sort of prop rod either.

Re: Crazy hatch idea (12v actuator)

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2024 2:56 pm
by leefrankpierce
Russ wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 1:28 pm I’m always raising and lowering the forward hatch.

I want it open when possible but it gets caught in headsail sheets so I need to go up and close it

First of all, Roger should have included an arm to hold the hatch open. πŸ™

I was thinking about a 12v actuator arm.
Could be wired to operate from the cockpit.

Doable or crazy?

https://www.amazon.com/VEVOR-Actuator-M ... B0CWNBRKWB
Just the right kind of crazy.
Let us know how it works out!

Re: Crazy hatch idea (12v actuator)

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2024 5:45 pm
by LordElsinore
My 2012 :macm: doesn't have any kind of arm either. Never realized that some did. I have the same problem with jib sheets getting tangled up in the locking knob/latch when the hatch is opened. Some times I prop it part way open by just jamming a handle section from a kids aluminum oar in there, but usually it's either open or closed.

Love the actuator idea and interested to see how you end up mounting it. I say go for it!

Re: Crazy hatch idea (12v actuator)

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2024 8:26 pm
by Login3
This project (hatch prop) is on my list too ... never thought of power. I did consider pneumatic briefly after messing with a 100ml syringe clogged with cured epoxy. Currenltly my plan is two or three rods on a swivel, and a stop. Each rod is a different length. Short, medium, long, each props the hatch open progressively. Would require two holes.

But this linear actuator idea tickles my geekery. I like it. I think the 6" version would work. 12" might be too big. Doesn't need to be at the end of the arm.

Do it!