The Impossible happened

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The Impossible happened

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Re: The Impossible happened

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Wow do we know who this belonged to?
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Re: The Impossible happened

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Wow!
Would be interested in more details of what happened, as details develop.
The article seems to imply that it was unmanned and took on water?
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Re: The Impossible happened

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That is so sad to see. Glad no one got hurt though and glad that it's not fully submerged. Should be usable still I would think, based on the photo at least, but what a mess
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Either ballast not in or the drain hoses leaked. Or both. The only way it would look like that is if it was on the bottom. It would right itself and the floatation would keep it upright. I would think a good pump and flip her right back up. Damage should be minimal. The motor might even be out of the water in the pic.
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Re: The Impossible happened

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Its on a freshwater lake too. Will need a good cleaning no doubt. Luckily no one seemed to be in it.
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Re: The Impossible happened

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Would love to know the story. It seems to be sitting on the bottom in shallow water. Lot's of junk on the deck.
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Re: The Impossible happened

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According to the article, the boat was observed slowly sinking, and then turned on its side. In that shallow of water, the ballast may not have been in? It would be informative to find out where the ingress was?

It looks like a nice lake.

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Dave, if you find out more, there are a lot of interested parties eager to know.
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Re: The Impossible happened

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Never would have expected to see that. It's does nicely demonstrate the floatation working in a Mac. :?
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Re: The Impossible happened

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Russ wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2024 5:54 am Would love to know the story. It seems to be sitting on the bottom in shallow water. Lot's of junk on the deck.
Don’t know if there are water level fluctuations on that lake. Looks like it either was moored in shallow water, or broke loose and ran aground; then got blown over, or fell over. With all of that crap on deck, the center of gravity and windage is likely much higher than it should be.

My thoughts are, it wouldn’t have to even have a leak to be in that condition. Just run it aground and knock it down. As Tsatzsue said, it appears to be aground.
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Re: The Impossible happened

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According to the article, the boat was observed sinking in shallow water before flipping.

“They said the boat had begun to sink at around 3pm on Monday.”

“The sailboat has rolled over onto its port side, with a canoe still attached to the stern of the boat,” that resident said by email.

“It’s no more than five metres from the shoreline. You can almost walk up to it.”
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Re: The Impossible happened

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Maybe. News interviews can be very unreliable. Could they confuse a knock down with sinking. Did the writer quote the witness, or put it in their own words? You would think an email would be accurate. There is no mention of the boat being normally moored there.

It certainly could have sunk. Vandals could have left the hatch open, or it may have deck leaks and it may have flooded with rain water. No telling how long it has been left unattended. Knowing how the boat is designed, the weak link is the motor well/sink drain through hull and piping (as pointed out earlier). But who knows what owner mods have been done? I remember the operable port holes installed below the rub rail incident that led to a sinking. I wouldn’t have guessed someone would do that either.

I’m a born and trained skeptic. Don’t pay any attention to me. :wink:
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Re: The Impossible happened

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Since I like to overanalyze everything.

What's with all the fuel tanks above deck? Or are they water? Are there more on the other side submerged? A lot of weight above deck.

Is that a propane tank? Could be a fender, but I would expect a fender to float high or maybe it's a fender tied to the port side and being pulled under.
Speaking of fenders, there are a lot of them. This boat wants to be at a dock not a mooring.
What's all that junk behind the cockpit? It looks like a live aboard or someone expecting to be out for a while.

We know from the promo videos, tipping the boat 90 degrees will keep the companionway above water and won't flood.
Reports said it was sinking at 3pm. Something went wrong. The stock M has ONE thru hull on the transom for the motor well/sink drain. It's pretty janky without a seacock to shut it off. A failure there could be catastrophic. Fill the boat with water and it will easily lay down, especially with cans of liquid on top of the deck.

If the captain installed some more thru hulls incorrectly, that could be a failure also.



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Interesting thread responses.

All of them, including mine, fall under the category of debating how many angels are on the head of a pin? Once we decide on an answer, what difference does it make :?: :D
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Re: The Impossible happened

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Well, for me the discussion and guesses are at least making me think of things I should avoid that could lead to this type of situation for my boat! Storing heavy things on deck while unattended is on my list now, for example (although I've never done so)

Man, that is a BIG lake. With all those fenders out, it does seem likely that it blew away from a dock somewhere. I have had my boat drag anchor before in heavy wind, requiring me to chase it down and find it in shallow water near a different shore, but thankfully it's never tipped over or run hard aground etc. Even with the weight of those cans up top I don't think it would tip over if fully ballasted from being blown into shore unless there was water coming inside
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