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26M Dinghy Kicker Mount
Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 12:05 pm
by JohnSn
Hi Folks,
I'm a new 26M owner and needed a way to mount a kicker. I researched this site and found no solutions. So, I designed and built a mount that hangs on the railing around the flying seats.
Here's a picture of the mount with the outboard on it.
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Here's a picture with the mount removed and resting on the flying seat:
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I've tried it on the water and it rides very nicely. I would never trailer it on the road with outboard mounted to the flying seat. The outboard stays in the truck bed when trailering.
I believe the flying seat can easily accomodate this load when the boat is in the water. The weight of the outboard is about 50 pound. This design translates the weight of the outboard to the seat of the flying seat. Since the flying seat is designed to accomodate a full size man, the seat can handle this load easily. There is a approximately 10 pound force pushing aft on the railing. Again, that force is small compared to a full size man leaning back in the flying seat.
The marine grade plywood and redwood 2x4s were scrap material in my shop. So, all that this cost me was the 1/4" flathead ms, washers and self-locking nuts.
I'm not quite sure how to upload the photos...
I hope others find this useful!
Happy New Year,
John

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Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 12:11 pm
by NiceAft
John,
It sounds interesting, but I would like to see some pictures. Try posting them again.
If you are having difficulty in posting pictures, try doing a search of this site using the words, "uploading pictures" or "posting pictures". Do you use a site such as
PHOTOBUCKET!
Ray
Images
Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 12:22 pm
by JohnSn
Hi,
Being a newby, it's hard to post images to this web site...
So, go to the photobucket website

and search for katie_mae_album. The first two pictures are of the outboard mount.
Notice the hole drilled in the seat that catches the dowel protruding from the bottom of the mount. Also, notice that the 2x4s fit tighly under the railing. These features hold the mount firmly in place when the plywood sanwich is bolted together.
John
Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 12:37 pm
by Currie
Hi John,
Since you already have the photobucket account, just click the 'IMG Code' under your pic. You can then paste into a topic here, without having to use the 'Img' helper buttons - your paste will automatically add the [ img ] and [ /img ].
Cheers,
~Bob
Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 12:45 pm
by hvolkhart
Here are the photos
nicely done.
Isn't the motorprety high to mount it on the dingy?
Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:29 pm
by NiceAft
John,
Do you have any shots of the kicker in place, and working? How does the boat sail with the kicker in place? How difficult is it to raise and lower the kicker, and how long does it take? Since there has to be some vibration, how regularly do you check the screws at the braces under the stern rail seats for looseness.
Ray
Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 3:32 pm
by hvolkhart
Has anyone any experience with this kind of dingy motor mount?
Can this also be used as a pusher for the 26M?
Spring loaded for easy lifting.
Mounting plate made of tough corrosion resistant polyethylene.
Hp rating: 8-12,
Max weight: 82,
Vertical travel: 14-1/4"
Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 4:57 pm
by Catigale
Thats a Garelick mount - you can see that and buy it from Defender.
I use one on my Island 17 on which I mount a 3-6 HP kicker (depending on how many people up I am)
With my light kicker (27 pounds) I removed three of the kick up springs so that the spring action balanced the motor weight.
Its a well constructed piece of kit, priced at about 100 USD IIRC
26M Dingy Kicker Mount
Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 5:07 pm
by Tahoe Jack
I used a similar mount in my recent 26X mod...BTW, the top pic is in error...I accessed the upper mount bolts via another access port, if you PM, I could send the correct pic...suppose I need to edit the post..
http://macgregorsailors.com/cgi-bin/mod ... record=988 26M should be similar

Jack
Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 5:15 pm
by hvolkhart
Jack,
Is there any interference with the ruders up?
Can you still turn fully right and left?
Hans
Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 5:36 pm
by NiceAft
I know that John has created an ingenious attempt at kicker placement om an M (an X's stern is different from an M), but I question the leveraged weight placed on the stern rail seat. The longer the wooden plank extends beyond the seat, the greater the leverage placed downward on the two supports from the seat going into the hull, and upward at the front edge of the seat. The vibration of the motor along with its weight (I theorize) is placing more strain on the seat than it was designed to take. The weight of an adult, is placed more evenly, and, over a wider area. That last comment was not intended to be directed towards any one's posterior, and nobody should take it personally

Remember, this is coming from someone who's boat is named
Nice Aft
Being someone who believes that the stern rail seats are the best seats on the boat; I would be very hesitant to lose the use of one. I like the idea of a kicker motor, but not at the loss of one of those precious seats. There is no right or wrong here. Weighing the advantages and disadvantages of that sort of placement is a very individualistic decision. That is why I would like to see pictures of the unit in action.
Ray
26M Dingy Kicker Mount
Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 7:35 pm
by Tahoe Jack
Hvolkart......we have no turn restrictions with rudders all up, or all down, however, as noted in my mod text, you need to be near neutral to raise or lower. I suggest you do a carefull mock-up with your motor and proposed mount...cycle everything etc before trying an install. Lots of variables...motors, mounts, and X vs M. Good luck. and...since its getting near...Happy New Year all.

Jack
Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 7:58 pm
by Night Sailor
hvolkhart... Just yesterday I completed mounting a similar dinghy mount to the starboard area of the transom, outside the rudder on my X. Made by Fulton. It was a bear to get to all the bolts inside the hull, but I cut an access panel in the interior liner inside the transom area to get it done. I replaced the supplied carriage bolts with s.s. hex bolts and lock nylock nuts, and had a helper to assist with the install. It's very sturdy. I won't get a chance to use it on the water for a few weeks yet, but by mearsurement only, it doesn't interfere with steering with rudders up or down. A sea trial will result in pictures and a report on the results to the mod forum. I have a Nissan 6 hp, 4 stroke. It will be the auxilary motor when I don't take along the mast for runs up creeks and bayous with low bridges.
Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 8:58 pm
by Paul S
here is my redneck dingy motor mount - scrap plywood, metal strap attached to a sideways mounted antenna extension (built as the bbq mount!)
I do plan on making it prettier, but it is still being tested

26M dingy motor mount
Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 12:44 am
by Tahoe Jack
I just posted an update to my original kicker/dingy motor mount mod that now reflects a pic correction and more details on the access port needed, bolts etc.
http://macgregorsailors.com/cgi-bin/mod ... ecord=1001 I will ask the board folks to remove the earlier version.

Jack