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Re: Nice Clip

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bastonjock wrote:
pokerrick1 wrote:Nice clip Moe, but I'm glad I bought the built in factory stove (which I have NEVER used - - - even though I did buy that alcohol stuff) - - - I DO use my microwave a LOT!!

Rick :) :macm:
yeh but pokerrick,you are meant to put the alcohol in the stove,not mix it with something to drink it :D :D :wink:
Oh :o :? I didn't know :?

Rick :) :macm:
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yes duane,alcohol may have its dangers but propane is far more dangerous imho
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About 20 years ago, I was on a rented sailboat that had the old style pressurized alcohol stove. I lit the burner, and was about to start cooking when I felt this painful sensation and realized that my leg was on fire. The problem was that I really could not see the flames. An alcohol fire is almost invisible. Sometimes I could see part of the flame, and sometimes I could not.

The burner on the stove was connected to the alcohol tank with some kind of tubing, and the connecting fitting was loose. When I pressurized the tank, the alcohol leaked from the fitting and apparently ran down the side of the cabinet, which I failed to see. When I lit the burner, the flame also ran down the side of the cabinet and ignited the puddle of alcohol on the deck. When I first realized that something was not right, I made the mistake of pouring a pot of water onto the stovetop which only helped spread the fire. My wife and another couple outside in the cockpit threw me some soaking wet towels and I was able to smother the fire with them.

When I was ready to buy my Mac26, I saw the alcohol stove option listed and said no-way until the dealer explained that the new ones are un-pressurized.
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another consideration

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Another consideration when weighing the pros and cons of these stoves, at least for me, is the moisture. Both propane and butane put out a lot of water vapor when burned. When you are most likely to use one inside the cabin is when it is chilly outside, hence the fiberglas liner is cool, and voila - condensation all over the inside of the boat. And yes, this happens with the sliding hatch open a bit to ensure adequate fresh air.

I can't imagine the inside after using a catalytic heater for a while.

I have one of the little portable butane units (Kenyon I think) which is perfect for the M next to the sink (2004 model, non-sliding galley), but I can count on one hand the number of times I've used it there. 99% of the time it is used in the cockpit, even if the bimini has to be up to keep off the rain.

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Post by Don T »

Yeah, HC + O2 = CO2 & H2O (with remnant of poor combustion CO & HC)


I also dislike cleaning up after all the alcohol soot on the cookware and contertop.
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Post by bubba »

One size fits all works great until the regulator and propane bottle fall off the BBQ to be swept away by the Columbia River current.

So how much coffee is that anyway? The Skipper's tea water heats up quick enough. The stove did a great job warming up our lamb and parmasian asparagus Easter dinner while we picked a couple of tunes.

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Post by bastonjock »

i was watching one of those history channel progs,this was about the mary celeste, t the reason for the crew abandoning ship is now thought to be down to the alcohol and other chemicals in her hold.

Its thought that the vapour built up and was then ignighted by a spark from the iron rings that hold barrells together,this caused the hatches to be blown open and a fearce flame to burn for a time,this kind of flame does not cause any fires in the hold,so they all jumped into the lifeboat,used the main halyard to tie up the lifeboat to the ship,it is then thought that a storm blew up very quickly and sent the lifeboat to the bottom.
now if it had been butane??? it would have gone BANG
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Post by March »

It appears that the Origo prices are high even in Sweden. A friend of mine offered to buy me two Origo alcohol cans, for mine are getting pretty old. Converted into the whimpy dollar, the manufacturer's price is prohibitive.
Maybe they're supposed to come with two Swedish cooks
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