Introducing WindSong

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Berber Boy
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Introducing WindSong

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Finally after an extended work trip away from my big new blue unlaunched :macm: the Admiral's daughter arrived and insisted we launch the next day. The weather was a cool but fine 16 degrees Centigrade when we arrived mid afternoon at Apple Tree Bay on the Hawkesbury river system North of Sydney. I had selected this site because it has an excellent deep water ramp that is not to busy during the week with plenty of room to maneouvre

As we planned to sleep overnight we had only two hours to setup and get to our mooring. Many had advised to motor first and get a feel for the boat. The launch went smoothly and the Evinrude 60hp Etec started first crank and I was away. Managed to dock at the Jetty and waited until the AD arrived. We backed off and set off for Little Jerusalem Bay about 7nm towards the Estuary.

First Impressions:

1: The mast raising that I had practiced on land still seems a bit clumsy with the mast waving from side to side until the SS wire guides tighten. The spreaders have to be carefully set free from the safety lines. The fact that the genoa was also attached was a new experience and it would seem to me that it may be a bit of challenge to manage this quickly with just one person?
2: Was surprised how high the :macm: is off the waterline
3: The Ballast filled very quickly and final burp quite satisfying to hear.The stability with ballast was better than I had imagined
4: We cruised initially at about 7 knots and it seemed a very nice comfortable cruising speed
5: The lag in the rack and pinion steering takes a little time to get used to but was pleased with the overall maneuverability


We picked up a permanent mooring for the night just before sunset and prepared to settle in. The AD cooked up a tasty stir fry with Fajitas but had left the drinks box at home so we celebrated with a glass of " Chateaux du Pompe 2009" Although the temperature dropped to a cool 6 degrees C overnight the cabin was cosy and the beds quite comfortable although I found that the stern berth panels under the mattress creaked every time I moved!

After a glorious sunrise we powered out to the bar (in the absence of any wind) and the AD flattened the motor on very smooth water and full ballast. My GPS clocked and sustained 16.2 Knots. This was substantially better than I had expected. We had a very light NW at about 5knots. We raised the MS with one reef(as advised to get the feel of the boat) and added the Genoa. The boat picked up on a beam reach to 4-5kn with good shape in the sails. However the wind died on us so we proceeded to cross the bar into Brisbane Water and circumnavigate Lion island. There was a gentle rolling swell and an underlying tidal stream on the ebb that gave us an opportunity to see how WS handled it.

On returning to the Estuary mouth there was a quick burst of wind (10kn) and we tried sailing just on the Genoa but the CDI furler jammed on about 50% for no apparent reason. All lines were free. We finally had to start up and motor into the wind where I was able to go up front and manually work the furler backwards and forwards until it freed up but by then the wind had died and stayed that way. We motored back and were able to put WS on the trailer first attempt and then Mac bumped her successfully.

Final impressions.

1: Overall the launching and stability challenges were less than I had expected.
2: The short time I had the Genoa out fully I noticed that the foot of the Gennie does not ride clear of the safety lines. Is this normal or have i not raised it on the furler high enough?
3: I noticed also that the mainsheet 5:1 is constrained by the rear safety lines when on full traveler extension. Again is this normal?
4: Not sure I like the Rudder raising and locking loop rope setup. It seems clumsy to me.
5: The Etec is really good and quite economical I found.
6: The Boat really catches peoples attention and i had nothing but friendly waves and or comments. During setup a number came to ask questions about it
7: I was amazed how much condensation takes place in the Cabin. I will have a chamois on next time to mop that up.

8: There was one major calamity which caused the AD some distress. The New Toilet had a leak in it around the seal between the top and bottom sections. She was not amused or impressed. I have yet to check out where it was made!! :D Anyone had similar problems?

Thanks guys for the terrific support and ideas that this website gives. It is giving me a lot of help :) :) :) :)

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Nautek
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Post by Nautek »

Hi Berber Boy

Sounds like you had a great trip.
Better you test it out with little wind than too much for comfort.
The Hawksbury is a beautiful place and brings back many memories in my younger years when it wasnn't so crowded.
Take things slowly and you will find the adventure much more pleasing.
Enjoy

Allan
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Post by Mistral »

Hi Berber Boy,

Congrats on the first outing. Sounds like you had a great time, apart from dunny problems.

The genoa in standard configuration does not clear the safety lines. I have raised my furler about 200mm, which is a great help.
One of the first things I did with the rudder raising sheets was to put loop blocks in it to make the raising a lot easier.

Hope this helps a bit.

Dirk
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Post by TAW02 »

Glad to see you enjoying the great explore.

As far as CDI furler jamming; that happens from time to time. I would venture to say once every fifth time it is deployed and re-furled. The trick is ... make sure there is no slack in the furler drum line when deploying the sail. Allowing slack will make the drum line lap over itself and so forth, creating a snag when it comes time to furl up the sail.

So it goes ... whenever you are tugging on the headsail sheet (deploying headsail), keep a hand on the furler drum line, making sure that it doesen't grow slack. There is a balamce here. And you will feel it. If, for example, the wind catches the headsail and takes it away from your control, chances are you will deploy headsail faster than you expected and hence, the drum line will loose slack and wind itself into a tangled wad inside the drum. This will suck later on when you discover the need to roll up the headsail. Yes. It will jam.

All in all Berber Boy ... it will take practice.

On to the head.

Yes mine had a leak at the pump-out fitting near the toilet bowl lid. Had blue toilet treatment flowing all over the floor. This stains the Hull out of fiberglass. Oh well ... I took the plastic plug out of the fitting and buttered it with some silicon sealant and resealed the little diablo. Save to say it is now behaving quite well :wink:

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Dear Nautek,

Yes I love the Hawkesbury but it does get crowded in the warmer weather. it has its fair share of nautically illiterate who create mayhem from time to time. The Barrenjoey - Lion island bar is very changeable and if you are running in on a Noreaster when the ebb tidal stream is at max it can be very interesting. If you are ever up this way let me know. You can revisit some memories

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Dear Dirk,

Yes I had already put raising blocks in but forgot to lengthen the loop rope! Embarassing but managed to add in a temporary extension to enable me to lock the rudders. Interested to know how you raised the furler 200 mm??

Thanks

David
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Dear Big T,

What you describe is exactly what happened. The wind increased and pulled the Genoa out very fast and I lost control of the Furling line. will watch that in future. Very helpful. In past years I have always sail with a jib and not a Genoa. Therefore I am a green horn one could say. When running downwind in the past with a jib I could set it to the main or gooseneck it. With the genoa what do you normally do with it? The boat runs well downwind but in the short time I sailed I really could not get a good shape to it and it is very hard to actually see it unless you look under the boom or hang out the side. Any suggestions? :?
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Post by Mistral »

Hi David,

We are in Agnes Water and Darwin till the middle of July and the boat is having some major servicing done (engine, water pump, fibreglassing, etc., etc.) When we get back to Melbourne I will send you the pictures. Have search for hifield levers on this site for some discussion for easy connecting of the furler. The lever is only available in the USA though.
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Post by puggsy »

Well, blow me, it looks just like my boat....

Just joking...About the mainsheet rubbing on the safety lines when the adjustable travellers are fully port or starboard...yes, it does rub and is not good...it seems the only answer here is to fit some PVC piping to the wire.
As to the standard rudder raising system...the straight pull is just too hard...
I have added extra pulleys...and so far have just tied them off on the stern rail...
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Post by Halcyon »

G'day and congratulations.

Before moving to Lake Macquarie my Admiral and I spent many happy days and the occasional week on the Hawkesbury. We would launch at Parsley Bay near Brooklyn. Very sheltered and room to move. But that's a long long way from Willow Vale. Americas Bay and Refuge Bay can get busy but we have always found a bouy to tie-up to but much prefer Spirit Cove in Smiths Creek. Look for it. Maritime map 9A. Very quiet, sheltered and you may even find us there. Then again, Lake Macquarie boasts a number of Macs and you will be sure to bump into someone there.

I'm sure you will be very happy with your Mac. We are.

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Post by Berber Boy »

Hi Brian,

Thanks for the tips on places to moor. will look out for them. I like Parsely Bay for launchiing as well and gives you quickier access to open water. I know the environs of Lake Macquarie well because my mother lived in Cooranbong but have never sailed there. What good mooring options are there for overnighting?

Thanks

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Well Pugsy that is quite a hauling system you got there. Thought it might be to lift your yellow and blue dinghy onboard!! :D :D :D :D
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Post by Halcyon »

Lake Macquarie is a big lake. They tell me over 70km to drive around but GOOD mooring spots are hard to find. Usually a little exposed especially if the wind changes direction.

We like Bird Cage Bay, near Wyee Point on the s/w corner. Watch for the reef as you enter, it's clearly marked though.
Pulbah Island only has one public mooring, on the s/w corner. We stopped there one night. Wind WAS blowing from the north, so perfect but then it turned around due west and straight onto us. Blew about 25 knots for two days and we stayed on that "24 hours maximum" mooring for two days but no-one came looking. We bounced around, fished, cooked, fished, caught up with some reading, fished. Had a great time. At that time our car and trailer were at Mannering Point and probably should have gone home but were having toooo much fun. Usually see many a boat anchored on the northern side of the island.

Wangi Workers Club has a jetty. Sail in and tie-up. Enjoy a nice meal in the bistro which just happens to overlook that nice boat on the jetty. Funny that !

Warners Bay at the northern end is a good spot on Friday nights in Summer. Local music groups put on a free show from around 6pm. We normally sail up on Friday, enjoy a meal and sundowners while enjoying the music. Then stay overnight and sail home on Saturday. Water can be a bit shallow but hey, we're in a Mac, No Problem. Several other boats have to moor further out.

Hope you enjoy your Mac as much as we are.

brian
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