I’d thought I throw this out just in case someone has the same set up and encountered the same problem or maybe can shed some light on it. I was having an intermittent problem with the power trim and tilt on my engine - sometimes it would work and sometimes it wouldn’t. I had tried to troubleshoot but it was a moving target and I could never figure out what the problem was – until this past weekend when I got a lead. The snow had receded to reveal the boat was still in the yard so I decided to install the batteries for the upcoming one good summer day we get in July.
My set up is a Yandina Combiner 100, an Off-1-All-2 switch, a starting battery and a house battery. Additionally I have a solar panel to maintain the batteries and my starting battery has a battery guard to protect it from accidental discharge. This system requires no switching of batteries; it is basically a “fire and forget” system that will never leave me without enough power to start my engine. I was reviewing the Yandina instruction which tells you to leave the switch on the selection for your starting battery which in my case is 1.
Once the batteries were in I then carried on with maintenance on the engine which at one point involved raising and lowering the engine with the power tilt. Didn’t the damn thing start and stop working with no rhyme or reason. The tilt WAS working when I heard the distinctive “click” from the Yandina Combiner in the cabin and I tried the tilt and behold.... it WASN’T working. I waited for a bit and heard the Yandina Combiner “click” and behold.... it WAS working. The solar panel was hooked up so I reasoned that when the Yandina was doing its thing it somehow opens the circuit somewhere and I lose power to the power trim and tilt when the selector is in the 1 position.
I switched my battery selector switch to “All” and no more problem, or at least is appears to be gone as the power trim works consistently without a problem. What I don’t understand is that it appears to only affect the power trim. Last year when I was getting ready to recover to the trailer the tilt didn’t work but I was still able to start the engine. Is the power tilt a separate circuit? Does any of this make sense to anyone?
I am thinking just the opposite.. That battery direct hook up is a constant source of power. The combiner is a set of contacts and I "think" he has it miss wired it, to include his trim motor..
Catigale wrote:It sounds like your trim motor is wired to a battery instead of the combiner. Trace the wir3 from the trim motor and see where it connects
Rod,
Give Yandina a call and explain what you did. I have same setup but with twin house batteries and a seperate starter battery.
Personally I think you have hooked up wireing wrong. You do leave the Battery to #1 starter and the Diode seperates the house to starter battery.
All your outboard elects should be on battery 1 and house on battery 2.
Ck to see if you wired correct from the 3 phase switch.
Ask them if a solar panel at 17 volts would interfer with system.
Dave
40Toes wrote:I’d thought I throw this out just in case someone has the same set up and encountered the same problem or maybe can shed some light on it. I was having an intermittent problem with the power trim and tilt on my engine - sometimes it would work and sometimes it wouldn’t. I had tried to troubleshoot but it was a moving target and I could never figure out what the problem was – until this past weekend when I got a lead. The snow had receded to reveal the boat was still in the yard so I decided to install the batteries for the upcoming one good summer day we get in July.
My set up is a Yandina Combiner 100, an Off-1-All-2 switch, a starting battery and a house battery. Additionally I have a solar panel to maintain the batteries and my starting battery has a battery guard to protect it from accidental discharge. This system requires no switching of batteries; it is basically a “fire and forget” system that will never leave me without enough power to start my engine. I was reviewing the Yandina instruction which tells you to leave the switch on the selection for your starting battery which in my case is 1.
Once the batteries were in I then carried on with maintenance on the engine which at one point involved raising and lowering the engine with the power tilt. Didn’t the damn thing start and stop working with no rhyme or reason. The tilt WAS working when I heard the distinctive “click” from the Yandina Combiner in the cabin and I tried the tilt and behold.... it WASN’T working. I waited for a bit and heard the Yandina Combiner “click” and behold.... it WAS working. The solar panel was hooked up so I reasoned that when the Yandina was doing its thing it somehow opens the circuit somewhere and I lose power to the power trim and tilt when the selector is in the 1 position.
I switched my battery selector switch to “All” and no more problem, or at least is appears to be gone as the power trim works consistently without a problem. What I don’t understand is that it appears to only affect the power trim. Last year when I was getting ready to recover to the trailer the tilt didn’t work but I was still able to start the engine. Is the power tilt a separate circuit? Does any of this make sense to anyone?
The problem might have less to do with the Yadina and more to do with an intermittent short in the engine itself. The starter and the tilt are on the same electrical circuit, in the engine. There's only one cable (rather a dual one, a + and a -) that leads from the engine to the battery. If the engine clamps are not securely tightened on the battery's electrodes, you might have a little power, but not enough to activate the tilt. Remember what happens in a car when the clamps are half-way attached; you have some lights on the dashboard, but when you engage the starter, everything dies. This might be something similar. With the tilt, it either works or it doesn't. The click you heard might mean that the second battery is engaged, and then you'll have extra juice for tilt as well. Or: the solar power clicks in for the extra umph.
You might want to clean up the clamps really well to all battery electrodes and the Yadina, first and foremost. If that doesn't work, you need to track down the circuit for the starter and the circuit for the tilt under the engine cowling itself.
