"Liquid Rollers" Perhaps a warning

[Hardcrab]

A couple of weeks ago I bought and used Liquid Rollers from WM on the bunks.
On the first retrive with my new Mac aluminum trailer, I was able to hand crank the boat all the way to the V block on level ground.
No real strain at all.
A first for me.
This stuff is slippery, hence the following warning based on my very limited experience with the stuff.

I first learned of the product on a fishing site somewhere, along with a sad story of a boat that slipped/fell right off the trailer, due only to the incline of the ramp.
A few other such stories were offered, but not as bad.

With these stories in mind, on my first launch with the product Friday, I kept the winch hook hooked until the trailer tires were in the water, not normal for me.
It was a good thing I did because my boat did drift back on the ramp incline until the winch strap stopped it from going all the way.
This stuff is slippery.

Then on retreive, and once I was back on level ground, I had the normal 4" or so from the V block.
No big deal, I'd just crank it forward like the last time, no sweat.

That is until I came to a normal stop, and the boat slid forward into the V block on it's own, just like I did a Mac bump.
It was just a normal stop but that was all it took to fully seat forward.

This stuff is slippery.
I don't mind because I don't trailer but a few hundred yards.

I'm not sure of the implications for those who trailer by having such slippery bunks, but perhaps beware and use lots of tie down straps?
Any other stories about this stuff, good or bad?

[dlandersson]

So you're saying...this stuff is slippery?

A couple of weeks ago I bought and used Liquid Rollers from WM on the bunks.
On the first retrive with my new Mac aluminum trailer, I was able to hand crank the boat all the way to the V block on level ground.
No real strain at all.
A first for me.
This stuff is slippery, hence the following warning based on my very limited experience with the stuff.

I first learned of the product on a fishing site somewhere, along with a sad story of a boat that slipped/fell right off the trailer, due only to the incline of the ramp.
A few other such stories were offered, but not as bad.

With these stories in mind, on my first launch with the product Friday, I kept the winch hook hooked until the trailer tires were in the water, not normal for me.
It was a good thing I did because my boat did drift back on the ramp incline until the winch strap stopped it from going all the way.
This stuff is slippery.

Then on retreive, and once I was back on level ground, I had the normal 4" or so from the V block.
No big deal, I'd just crank it forward like the last time, no sweat.

That is until I came to a normal stop, and the boat slid forward into the V block on it's own, just like I did a Mac bump.
It was just a normal stop but that was all it took to fully seat forward.

This stuff is slippery.
I don't mind because I don't trailer but a few hundred yards.

I'm not sure of the implications for those who trailer by having such slippery bunks, but perhaps beware and use lots of tie down straps?
Any other stories about this stuff, good or bad?

[Matt19020]

I really did not think that stuff worked...Maybe I will give it a try on 1 or 2 bunks but not all 3 or just half way on all of them....Thanks for the tip

[pokerrick1]

Sounds like a "slippery" story to me

Rick

[Hardcrab]

Did I mention that this stuff is slippery?
Capital S slick.

Other than that, it's slippery.
(At least on my first time used brand new carpet on my first time used brand new bunks on my first time used brand new trailer on it's first time dunking).

I might have over-done the spraying, because nothing seems to change visually when you spray the stuff on the bunks.
The bunks just look slightly wetter at first, then nothing-- looks just like they did before you started.
I used about 3/4 of the can in two applications 5 mins apart.
No doubt, way too much.

But it's slippery.

[dennisneal]

So, as I take it, one should not do the "MacGregor Bump" if the trailer is coated with this stuff?

How long does it last?

[Hardcrab]

Dennis,
Not unless you want the boat in the cab with you.
Really.
Watch out on launching and stops.

I really think the boat just might slip backwards right off the bunks and onto the concrete due to the down hill slope of the ramp, so keep the hook hooked until the last few feet.

Sunday, I just stopped normally from no more than 5 mph at the mast up gate, and she slid the four inches right into the V block.
I wasn't trying to do that at all, but I'll take the results.
That fact and the fact that she slipped backwards just due to gravity down the ramp on Friday convinced me offer up this post as info for others. YMMV.
It's slippery.

I'm not sure yet as to the life cycle between sprays.
So far, I first applied it two weeks ago, the boat then sat on the trailer/bunks until I launched Friday, then I loaded back up Sunday.

It just might last awhile, I dunno. I put it on pretty thick, I think.

It's a keeper for me, I know that.
But watch out.

I heard somewhere that it's slippery.

[pokerrick1]

so keep the hook hooked until the last few feet.

I always kept mine hooked until I had control of the boat at the launch ramp dock - - - then I went and unhooked the bow from the winch.

Rick

[mastreb]

so keep the hook hooked until the last few feet.

I always kept mine hooked until I had control of the boat at the launch ramp dock - - - then I went and unhooked the bow from the winch.

Rick

Ditto that. We've got dock-lines on the dock before the winch gets released.

[Crikey]

And a safety chain in case the strap lets go.

Does it have any negative or solvent effect on antifowling paint

[Hardcrab]

Crikey,
I don't know the answer.
My hull is unpainted, I keep it on the trailer.

I think the stuff is just a silicon based spray.
It has no solvent odor.
I don't recall any such warnings spelled out on the can.

[dlandersson]

Wonder if I could spary it on my hull for an extra knot or two?

Dennis,
Not unless you want the boat in the cab with you.
Really.
Watch out on launching and stops.

I really think the boat just might slip backwards right off the bunks and onto the concrete due to the down hill slope of the ramp, so keep the hook hooked until the last few feet.

Sunday, I just stopped normally from no more than 5 mph at the mast up gate, and she slid the four inches right into the V block.
I wasn't trying to do that at all, but I'll take the results.
That fact and the fact that she slipped backwards just due to gravity down the ramp on Friday convinced me offer up this post as info for others. YMMV.
It's slippery.

I'm not sure yet as to the life cycle between sprays.
So far, I first applied it two weeks ago, the boat then sat on the trailer/bunks until I launched Friday, then I loaded back up Sunday.

It just might last awhile, I dunno. I put it on pretty thick, I think.

It's a keeper for me, I know that.
But watch out.

I heard somewhere that it's slippery.

[phil kelly]

I've used it, it's not really slippery you know

[Crikey]

Slip slidin' away
Slip slidin' away
You know the nearer your destination
The more you're slip slidin' away

[mastreb]

It likely would not be nearly as slippery on a bottom-painted boat. Friction is primarily a function of the microscopic characteristics of the surface, so every different coating will have a different effect with this stuff. Anything shiny has a highly uniform microscopic surface (or it wouldn't be shiny) and this probably relies on that. Be interesting to get a slide report from someone with bottom paint who has used this.