Plant Shuttered, Doors Closed.

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Divecoz wrote:WOW!!! The Way Back Time Machine!!! Carbon Tet.. Yep we used it a LOT!! I was a certified High Voltage Splicer 13KVAC.. Often I was in a concrete vessel , below ground that was about 8'x10'x8'.. EVERYTHING I touched was washed!! Multiple times during the process with Carbon Tet.. Oh yea we had a fan or even fans, but we had to be breathing that stuff..hahaha wth were we thinking?????????
Oh, so that explains alot :) :) :)
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I can confirm all fiberglass boat manufacturers haven't moved south.
A quick web search showed at least 10 boat builders in Wisconsin, and that doesn't include Marinette Marine (Navy ship builders)
or Peterson Yachts in Sturgeon Bay. One of the top racing scow sailboat builders, Melges Boatworks, is located in its original Zenda, Wisconsin location.

Many boat builders moved south because of cheap southern labor.
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I used to drive from Texas to eastern ny state all the time. Never noticed any boat factories. Left the continent for a dozen years, came back and find myself making the same trip (well, in reverse). I see boat manufacture all over the place. Hull molds sitting in the middle of nowhere (south east USA) with assembled and partially assembled boats nearby.

Never saw a fiberglass boat manufacturer in my life, then I bet I saw 10 of em just from I95(?) on my last trip south. Small operations, but they were there. The south east, the China of the USA.
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Very Much So, sad to say.... :(
island808 wrote: The south east, the China of the USA.
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I don't want to draw the ire of any southerners on the board, But it's not like they've ever been espousing education and development.

I just hope they build well, and as industry moves out ther, don't turn their land into the slag heaps of Asia and the old industrial belt up here.
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island808 wrote:I used to drive from Texas to eastern ny state all the time. Never noticed any boat factories. Left the continent for a dozen years, came back and find myself making the same trip (well, in reverse). I see boat manufacture all over the place. Hull molds sitting in the middle of nowhere (south east USA) with assembled and partially assembled boats nearby.

Never saw a fiberglass boat manufacturer in my life, then I bet I saw 10 of em just from I95(?) on my last trip south. Small operations, but they were there. The south east, the China of the USA.
Start-ups? Entreprenurial spirit?
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Not even curious. There a are more than enough bass and pontoon boats in the world.

I would venture that they were slapping someone's brand on them other than "joe bob's boats n stuff". So many brands are just brands now-a-days". Buy the same thing with 5 different packages. everyone's favorite West marine is the perfect example of a brander.

I've found I can save better than %75 just by going to the Chinese source rather than paying some brander/drop shipper.

Helps to be able to communicate in chinese though :wink: though banggood . Com is a good one for random junk. Generally good stuff. No boat things though.
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Huh, so I guess all those chemicals and poisons and oily stuff is okay in the South and Florida. I guess if they need the jobs it makes sense. Kinda explains all the missing teeth stuff. I thought the reason all the boats were moving to the south was because every man woman and child in the south has two boats. I just assumed they all moved there because there is so much water and everyone has a boat. I did not know it was because of cheap labor and no poison regulations. I see why Roger did not go with the company to the south, I think he was the last holdout in California on the illegal immigration labor thing too - everyone I met at the factory spoke English with a Californian accent like me (there were indeed many brown people including my wife - but they were all Californos* like me, not illegals). Native Californians can tell the difference. Guys I met that used to work for Roger tell me in the old days Roger always hired teenagers in the plant, but in Orange County it's a lot harder to find teenagers willing to work, so his workforce was a lot older I noticed. But in California back only 15 years ago you were allowed to poison all the illegal immigrants you wanted in your factory but today your not allowed to poison anyone. It's getting real hard to find anyone you can exploit out here anymore these days. California is really going downhill.

Anyways, Roger did get his MBA at Stanford so I guess all the California stuff must have ultimately been his downfall, (after outlasting every other trailerable sailboat builder in the entire WORLD by over ten years!) Yeah, Roger had no idea what he was doing - just dumb luck I guess. Oh, did I mention that Roger INVENTED the trailerable sailboat?? Yeah, just another dumb Californio.

*Californios - Californians born in California whose parents were from ANYWHERE else and were smart enough to get the hull out of wherever that was they were from and move to California!
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Started with the dust bowl.
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WASP18 wrote:Started with the dust bowl.

My dad came from Oklahoma. Why did they all come to California?
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They were visiting and got stuck in Traffic on the 5
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So what is the term for californios moving to other states? 8)
BOAT wrote:*Californios - Californians born in California whose parents were from ANYWHERE else and were smart enough to get the hull out of wherever that was they were from and move to California!
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So what is the term for californios moving to other states?
'Unemployed'
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BOAT wrote:
WASP18 wrote:Started with the dust bowl.

My dad came from Oklahoma. Why did they all come to California?

Agriculture and industrial growth offered hope. Oklahoman's, Arkansas folks, and West Texans migrated to California to escape impossible conditions brought on by the "Dust Bowl" in the 1930's. This migration continued on into the 1950's. California also boomed after WWII when the rest of the country slipped into a recession.
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BOAT wrote: I thought the reason all the boats were moving to the south was because every man woman and child in the south has two boats. I just assumed they all moved there because there is so much water and everyone has a boat.
Since CA is on the southern border of the USA, in my atlas, that makes it a southern state. Is it true that everyone in CA has two boats? :wink:
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