Turnbuckles for Mac 26X

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Re: Turnbuckles for Mac 26X

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mastreb wrote:Also keep in mind that you should not use a turnbuckle on a forestay with a roller furler, as the furler can turn the turnbuckle and loosen it. I believe there's a current post on a mastfall of a non-MacGregor boat likely due to a furler rotated forestay turnbuckle.
I've never seen a boat with a roller furler that didn't have a turnbuckle on the forestay. You have to lock it, with nuts and/or with cotter pins, to prevent rotation. How else can you adjust mast rake, unless using vernier adjusters. :?: :?: :?:

Of course, my not having seen one without doesn't mean they aren't made that way. I can't prove a negative, of course, nor will I try. I just haven't seen it that way. :wink: 8)
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Re: Turnbuckles for Mac 26X

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A nice observation - I checked yesterday (in case I somehow missed something) my 1997 26X does NOT have a turnbuckle on my RF Genoa. I was kinda hoping that it somehow did. Now I'm wondering how to add one - it HAS to affect the forestay tension. :cry:
tkanzler wrote:
mastreb wrote:Also keep in mind that you should not use a turnbuckle on a forestay with a roller furler, as the furler can turn the turnbuckle and loosen it. I believe there's a current post on a mastfall of a non-MacGregor boat likely due to a furler rotated forestay turnbuckle.
I've never seen a boat with a roller furler that didn't have a turnbuckle on the forestay. You have to lock it, with nuts and/or with cotter pins, to prevent rotation. How else can you adjust mast rake, unless using vernier adjusters. :?: :?: :?:

Of course, my not having seen one without doesn't mean they aren't made that way. I can't prove a negative, of course, nor will I try. I just haven't seen it that way. :wink: 8)
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Re: Turnbuckles for Mac 26X

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How about 4 really thick rubber bands from China? :P
raycarlson wrote:four quality turnbuckles will run about 150 dollars at least, plus you now have four stays in which your adding extra length over what the factory adjusters were so you must raise your mast attach point or reduce stay length. four separate times. you can accomplish the same objective with one single modification at the fore stay.
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Re: Turnbuckles for Mac 26X

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Nice post. I'm wondering if I could use a cargo ratchet around the shroud/mast and the mast - tighten it up - adjust the vernier/plate and then release? :wink:

See: http://www.amazon.com/Erickson-34413-Re ... sbs_auto_2
mastreb wrote: With all the rigging in place, grip the upper shroud about 4 feet
above the deck and pull inboard toward the center of the boat.
The lower wire will go slack and allow another hole to be taken
up in the adjuster channel. To adjust the upper wires, pull inboard
on the lower wire. This method takes 2 people, and can get the
rigging tighter than is desirable. You can also loosen the forward
turnbuckle, make the necessary adjustment in the side wires, and
then retighten the turnbuckle. The final tightening of the forward
wire provides the final tightening of the entire rig.
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Re: Turnbuckles for Mac 26X

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mastreb wrote:
Also keep in mind that you should not use a turnbuckle on a forestay with a roller furler, as the furler can turn the turnbuckle and loosen it. I believe there's a current post on a mastfall of a non-MacGregor boat likely due to a furler rotated forestay turnbuckle.
Tomfoolery wrote:
I've never seen a boat with a roller furler that didn't have a turnbuckle on the forestay. You have to lock it, with nuts and/or with cotter pins, to prevent rotation. How else can you adjust mast rake, unless using vernier adjusters.
Yeah, there's a turnbuckle there, but it's hidden from view by the furler. Removing a pin and moving the (CDI) furler body upward along the forestay exposes enough of it for adjustment of the turnbuckle (after the cotters are removed). :wink:
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Re: Turnbuckles for Mac 26X

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...and you should be inspecting the turnbuckle every year, minimum, for cotter pin security!!!
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Yeah, I'm going to take a really close look. If I have one, I certainly don't know about it. 8)
Catigale wrote:...and you should be inspecting the turnbuckle every year, minimum, for cotter pin security!!!
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dlandersson wrote:Yeah, I'm going to take a really close look. If I have one, I certainly don't know about it. 8)
Catigale wrote:...and you should be inspecting the turnbuckle every year, minimum, for cotter pin security!!!
If it's the FFII, pull the pin and lift the drum. If it's there, it's buried inside the furler, with just the clevis visible at the bottom.
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Re: Turnbuckles for Mac 26X

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Worth an inspection. I found mine had struck the furler and gotten bent up funny... Not broken or anything. But i re-thought my bending procedures.
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