Mast Raising Magic?

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Mast Raising Magic?

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An interesting twist on an old trick:

http://klackospars.com/about/mast-raising-magic.html :idea:

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That looks cools, but where do you store that massive metal frame once it's up?
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Post by Bill at BOATS 4 SAIL »

It doesn't look like it would float, so I have one suggestion . . .
"The key to the system is the use of a Spinnaker pole track with a freely moving car"
I hope that Spinnaker pole track is not attached with sheet metal screws or rivets, but with machine screws and a backing plate(s).

I'm thinking of making up a kit to modify a 26X mast raiser into the type used on the 26M, with a brake winch on the mast raising pole, like I use on my 26X.
Would anyone be interested in one of these?
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Yup. For an X. 8)
Bill at BOATS 4 SAIL wrote:It doesn't look like it would float, so I have one suggestion . . .
"The key to the system is the use of a Spinnaker pole track with a freely moving car"
I hope that Spinnaker pole track is not attached with sheet metal screws or rivets, but with machine screws and a backing plate(s).

I'm thinking of making up a kit to modify a 26X mast raiser into the type used on the 26M, with a brake winch on the mast raising pole, like I use on my 26X.
Would anyone be interested in one of these?
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Looks like a more cumbersome version of the M model mast raising system. Don't see why you need the a frame when cables and a single pole would work.
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I saw a production trailer sailor online not too long ago that had a similar system, which folded down and looked like it was just part of the boat when not in use. Don't remember if it had baby stays or not, though. But it didn't look offensive when not in use - it kinda just blended in nicely.
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Bill at BOATS 4 SAIL wrote:I'm thinking of making up a kit to modify a 26X mast raiser into the type used on the 26M, with a brake winch on the mast raising pole, like I use on my 26X.
Would anyone be interested in one of these?
I'd considered adding the Dutton-Lainson brake winch to mine, but I already have some large(ish) ball bearing blocks for 5:1 advantage, and there are so many other places I need to spend some coin on that I doubt I'd take it there. But it would be a nice modification.
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Post by mastreb »

Yeah, I don't see how that's any better than the M mast raising system, and certainly more complex. If something lets go and you're standing at the cabintop winch, the mast is going to hit you.
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Post by EZ »

I kinda like the mast raising system on the Hunter Edge. It uses "solid" baby stays that are permanently connected. With this system, the mast is always connected to the deck. Even when moving it from the pulpit to the base. Seems like one of the more safe systems out there.

One drawback is you have to deal with the solid poles always on deck.

Not sure how a Mac can be modified with a similar system though.
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Post by Steve K »

Here's one I built.
It is simple, installs in seconds and can be operated from the ground or on the boat. This is great for single handed rigging :wink:

https://app.box.com/s/wwre10uq9pbvf54qakoq
(click on the first pic then you can click through them, zoom in, etc.)

The ATV winch is from Harbor Freight and has wireless remote (about $50 on sale). I can raise and lower the mast several times, using just a garden tractor battery. (the walmart one that costs around $15).

Be mindful that this winch has a lot more power than you think. You could bend the mast or otherwise break things by having a shroud/stay hung up on something while raising. PAY ATTENTION! :wink:
Otherwise this is a great work saver :)

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Yeah, I don't see how that's any better than the M mast raising system, and certainly more complex
I agree, for about $120 I converted the X MRS to the M's and it is hard to think of a simpler/more efficient way of doing it - unless you add an electric winch :wink: .
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