Update: Now with PICS. Opinions on this etc 90 for my 26x

[jazaddict]

I've HAD IT with this merc efi 60 POS...I'm done.
http://miami.craigslist.org/pbc/bpo/5093366449.html

So....I started lookin around and found this. My questions are:
is it the right "configuration" (I thought I read about long or short sumpin-sumpin)?
is that a decent price?
Can I just bolt it on and go or is there some steering mods or special setup?

Thanks

[bahama bound]

I love mine ,just priced them again .my local dealer has a new one with 15-20 hours never registered for I think 6900.00 ,but by the time you were out the door it was about another 2k .they said they would have to mount it .even using my controls and harness they still wanted like 550.00 .had mine sold for 4500.00 but the guy wanted my controls so that was like another 795.00 . Mine has 455 hours now and has not missed a beat since I put it on my boat .

[jazaddict]

Thx...I forgot to paste the link.....it's there now.

This one says 8k which is in the wheel house you mention.

Where is the dealer you mentioned?

[Gazmn]

You need to confirm it's a 20" short shaft version - which it looks. U might even want to see if your can get the model & serial #; Try the etecownersgroup.com for questions.

Just as a comparison, what does a new 90 cost? control box installation. Find out make sure you're getting enough off. & get a good reason as to why it's for sale.

The perk on a '15 was they were throwing in controls & cables N/C. But u pay installation.

Keep us posted

[Starscream]

With regards to the price, find out what it will cost you fully mounted. The add says it comes with the "I-command gauge" but find out if you need anything else to finish the install, like:

Wedges (to counter the angle of the transom)
Gas lines (had a different connector than my Honda)
Installation
Gauges (need at least an RPM gauge and a trim, but it's possible that the I-command gauge listed in the add has all those things and more)
Propeller (I think there's about a 99% chance that whatever is currently on there, it's not right for the Mac)
Spare prop (Some Mac-ers use different props for different functions such as wakeboarding or cruising, and it could be useful to have a second one. I have a Piranha composite prop that comes apart for easy storage and low weight)
Prop change wrench (a floating one, please)
Two gallons of Evinrude 2-stroke oil (It's amazing how fast you burn through oil for the first 25 hours while the engine breaks itself in)

I don't think you can use the fancy steering gear that that motor has on it.

My Etec90 will push the boat at 20mph fully loaded and fully ballasted, and 24 mph unloaded and unballasted. Some have done better (bahamabound) and some worse (Gazmn) with the same motor so it really depends on your boat loading and, I suspect, condition of the bottom.

I paid 10,800 $CDN (before taxes) for a brand-new 0-hour motor, which converts today to about 9,050 USD, for the complete install, all parts and labor A to Z, and have an extended 5 year "bumper to bumper" warranty. That included the standard RPM and trim gauges, not the I-command. In general things in Canada cost more anyway, even after the exchange rate is factored in. The I-command gauges, if they are the right ones you need, add value to that $8,000 package you found on craigslist, but to be honest I find the price a bit high unless it includes all the options above.

One thing to make sure of is that the motor is the salt-water version. There is a label and sticker somewhere on the motor that clearly states that the motor is salt-water approved. It may be that all the Etecs now are saltwater approved, but the mere presence of the sticker on my motor suggests that Evinrude may sell a fresh-water version as well.

[bahama bound]

Here in Charleston s.c ,saw a new pontoon series for like 7900 on eBay

[jazaddict]

So here's the text of the email response:
20 inch shaft
Standard aluminum prop
 I gauge is the upgrade gauge for evinrude. You can look on line and it will give you all in info.
I am selling it because it was on a boat I sold and the buyer wanted to put a Yamaha on the boat. So I kept
the engine.

What I've learned about I command gauges is that rpm, trim, mph (kts?), and more can be displayed.

The local evinrude dealer says new in the crate w/out prop, cables, steering etc is $8500.
Dealer says get a "motor report" to reveal actual hours and codes.
Dealer says steering is universal, so likely my existing will work.
Dealer says the throttle I have will not work, and I'll need a "harness" (wiring?) All site .unseen over the phone
Dealer says he will not mount it account liability unless the boat is "rated" for a 90.....I get the feeling from other posts here that it's not.
Dealer says warranty IS transferable.

I've axed the seller to provide a motor report, axed him if he thinks my throttle will work, axed him what year it is.

So I guess I'll have to rent some sorta cherry picker to pull the merc, and put on the evinrude and rig it myself. What could possibly go wrong?

Couldn't determine salt water capability.
Couldn't determine if wedges are necessary

Now I shall cut the lawn and wait for all this to fall into place.

[Russ]

I am selling it because it was on a boat I sold and the buyer wanted to put a Yamaha on the boat. So I kept
the engine.

Hmmm.... do you believe that? Seems like he wants a lot for a used motor. What would a brand new, fully warranted motor cost? He's not going to install it so that could be a problem if you are a novice.

[jbpatents]

I have Etec 90 on my and its good motor. Why the headache? Get new one installed and know everything is doe right and warranted. You are not saving much to buy this used one, and you don't know what you'll end up with.

[jazaddict]

Sounds like good advice.

I did talk to the guy. He's a bidness owner, seems legit. Had a good story about why it's for sale. Says he's put 15 hours on it, that's verifiable by getting a motor report from a dealer(plus its viewable on the icommand gauge). Has the paperwork with 6 years left on the warranty plus the I command gauge and the hydraulic steering (which I'll sell if I can't use, so there's a few hundred back). Said he would be happy to run a motor report (at my expense)which would verify all his claims. I was thinking about heading over to do that (2 5 hours one way).


I talked to an evinrude dealer. He said a new one was 8500 in the crate, plus power cables (throttle and transmission ). Said the warranty does transfer. Said its pretty bullet proof motor (his words). Said he wouldn't install it on the macgregor, so I'm still on my own there. By the time I pay tax and those cables I'm well over 9k.

So I'm still thinking about it..... he isn't coming much off the 8k. Prolly worth a drive to see it.

[Russ]

I talked to an evinrude dealer. He said a new one was 8500 in the crate, plus power cables (throttle and transmission ). Said the warranty does transfer. Said its pretty bullet proof motor (his words). Said he wouldn't install it on the macgregor, so I'm still on my own there. By the time I pay tax and those cables I'm well over 9k.

So I'm still thinking about it..... he isn't coming much off the 8k. Prolly worth a drive to see it.

Could have been a lemon that the dealer had to take back. For a grand difference I wouldn't touch it. Get a boxed motor that you know should be good. Now if he were willing to come down to $6k, I might think about it. Every auto I ever bought depreciated that much when I drove it over the white line of the dealer exit. If it's a dealer, you still have to pay sales tax on it if you want a clean sale.

There was a guy on this forum years ago with a lemon eTec. Had to write nasty letters to BRP and get a regional mechanic to check it out. He fought and fought with the warranty and I believe the computer was flaky. But not until the regional mech went out on his boat with laptop attached did they do something about it. If I recall the problem was certain RPM ranges would run like crap.
So if you install this sucker yourself and have problems, will a dealer touch it. Will they blame it on the installer (you). Yea, it could be fine, but I wouldn't want to risk it. Who's the dealer? Can you check their Yelp ratings or complains on ripoffreport.com.


--Russ

[WASP18]

For the small difference in price, it's not worth it. Better off with a dealer installation. Also, the dealer is on the hook after the install. You get a dealer warrantee for workmanship along with the manufacturers warrantee. I discovered that dealers will not install a motor that exceeds the boat manufacturers horse power limit. Your back to square one so consider a 50hp ETEC and burn far less gas.

[Russ]

I discovered that dealers will not install a motor that exceeds the boat manufacturers horse power limit. Your back to square one so consider a 50hp ETEC and burn far less gas.

BWY, PacWest dealer, installed a Suzuki 70 new on my boat. I think with the blessing of Roger. Not sure how that works. Maybe they sign a waver.

[jbpatents]

Mine was a dealer installation, so I think there are dealers who will install Etec 90. BWY recommends Suzuki 70, so the 60 is not the limit. Note that the Suzuki weighs 341 lbs while the Etec 60 only 240lbs and Etec 90 320lbs.

[jazaddict]

Alright alright....you guys have convinced me. I'll hold out for a new one.
I'll have to look around for a cooperative dealer. West coast of Florida, any recommendations?