David, should we make a trip to Stockton this summer, Id be happy to have you and the missus aboard for a day.
We havent lined out our trip list for this year excepting making the midwest Mac meet. Perhaps Stockton will see our return.
Might I ask who else
Thanks Scott, if you decide to come down this way, let me know. Karen and I would love the opportunity. Judging by the photos on your website, you guys have a real good time with your boat. BTW, was that the MG or AH version of the Spridget in that one picture? In my younger (read: single) days, I had a couple of Triumphs, a Spitfire and a TR4A. Matter of fact, that was one of the threats I had prepared in case the sailing idea got shot down by the boss: guess I will just have to go out and buy an old sports car for my mid-life crisis. So would dinner at Stockton's finest restaurant constitute adequate payment? Before you answer that you should bear in mind that 'Stockton's finest restaurant' is pretty much an oxymoron, but there are a couple that are at least decent.
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David asked
least we enjoy it
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They do a pretty good Job at the restaurant behind the north/ sailboat marina. At least we enjoy it
1976 MG Midget (rubber bumper) 1500 spitfire engine, single solex. I have owned a Spitfire, a TR4-A, a TR6, and a AH bug eyed sprite in my years. Oh yeah and the newer Mini, Im a glutton for punishment.BTW, was that the MG or AH version of the Spridget in that one picture? In my younger (read: single) days, I had a couple of Triumphs, a Spitfire and a TR4A
least we enjoy it
Absolutely!!So would dinner at Stockton's finest restaurant constitute adequate payment?
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They do a pretty good Job at the restaurant behind the north/ sailboat marina. At least we enjoy it
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Hmm.. would be unusual to be a Solex on the M.G. ... perhaps it's a Zenith-Stromberg?Scott wrote:1976 MG Midget (rubber bumper) 1500 spitfire engine, single solex.
Glad to see you're as much of a glutton as I am, though, Scott! I'm currently on my 23rd, 24th and 25th English car... each of the previous ones having been restored, driven and eventuallly sold over the past 33 years. Gotta love'em!
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KMC, yer right it is a ZS, I wasnt thinking while I was typing. That in fact is a Pic of my carb except that My choke is manual.
Im joking when I rag on BL they aren't reliable from the factory but once you've replaced or rebuilt EVERYTHING on the car they are quite dependable
We've had really good luck with our MG. The photo I posted is at the completion of the 3rd rebuild in about 20 years. The cars has been hammered as a daily driver except the past 3 or 4 years.
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I have never had a Lucas wiper motor fail!!!
Im joking when I rag on BL they aren't reliable from the factory but once you've replaced or rebuilt EVERYTHING on the car they are quite dependable
We've had really good luck with our MG. The photo I posted is at the completion of the 3rd rebuild in about 20 years. The cars has been hammered as a daily driver except the past 3 or 4 years.
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I have never had a Lucas wiper motor fail!!!
Man, 25 English cars! I doubt many people who live there have had the patience to deal with that many. Kmac, you must be a true aficionado...or just truly crazy. Kind of odd that you match the two Triumphs I have owned Scott. Not so much the Spitfire, but the TR4A is not the most common one out there. I never had an inordinate amount of electrical problems on mine, although I only drove the Spitfire for a year, and the TR spent most of its life in the garage. I don't think I put more than 3000 miles on it in 5 or 6 years.
Now if you want electrical problems and every other kind, try the Irish sports car. I also owned a Delorean for awhile when I was way too young and poor to really afford it. I gave up on it after a year, six months of which it sat in the garage waiting for me to scrape up the next $500 to pay for repairs. You have never really experienced true fun with 12V power until you get locked in a car because you hit a pothole.
Orleans Trail Marina it will be. We have been wanting to head over that way and try it. Just never have gotten any feedback on it before.
Now if you want electrical problems and every other kind, try the Irish sports car. I also owned a Delorean for awhile when I was way too young and poor to really afford it. I gave up on it after a year, six months of which it sat in the garage waiting for me to scrape up the next $500 to pay for repairs. You have never really experienced true fun with 12V power until you get locked in a car because you hit a pothole.
Orleans Trail Marina it will be. We have been wanting to head over that way and try it. Just never have gotten any feedback on it before.
[quote="RandyMoon"]Because one of my daughters moved to Texas (and now has my grandson who is at the top of my list of someone I want to be around as much as possible, he is so dang cute, he has my genes), we are looking at Texas as a retirement point.
" capitalist boating pigs who are eating up the coastline properties (whine whine whine), but that is what I am looking for. The wife and I are going to retire in 4.5 years. I will be 62 and she will be 51. We want a condo situation with a slip nearby. I think I can teach her how to do crabbing off the dock to pay for gas for the 90 horse Tuhatsu.
We are headed down to Dallas in a week to see our kids and the Rear Admiral Grandson (he is sooo cute) and while we are down there we are going to check out Lake Tawakoni which is an hour East of Dallas and allows docks behind houses. Eat breakfast and walk to the backyard and go sailing. Life could not get any better than that. A wireless connection and trade a few stocks before lunch.
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If you want an area warm enough for sailing throughout most of the year, you might also want to check out the various condo/slip properties on the Gulf Coast, such as those near Houston, Kemah, Galveston, Corpus Christi, etc. Dallas actually has quite a lot of cold weather during the winter months, and there are lots more slips and more on-the-water or near-the-water living arrangements near the coast. Regarding the grandkids, it's a 4.5 hour drive from Houston to Dallas or a convenient, inexpensive flight on Southwest.
Jim
" capitalist boating pigs who are eating up the coastline properties (whine whine whine), but that is what I am looking for. The wife and I are going to retire in 4.5 years. I will be 62 and she will be 51. We want a condo situation with a slip nearby. I think I can teach her how to do crabbing off the dock to pay for gas for the 90 horse Tuhatsu.
We are headed down to Dallas in a week to see our kids and the Rear Admiral Grandson (he is sooo cute) and while we are down there we are going to check out Lake Tawakoni which is an hour East of Dallas and allows docks behind houses. Eat breakfast and walk to the backyard and go sailing. Life could not get any better than that. A wireless connection and trade a few stocks before lunch.
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If you want an area warm enough for sailing throughout most of the year, you might also want to check out the various condo/slip properties on the Gulf Coast, such as those near Houston, Kemah, Galveston, Corpus Christi, etc. Dallas actually has quite a lot of cold weather during the winter months, and there are lots more slips and more on-the-water or near-the-water living arrangements near the coast. Regarding the grandkids, it's a 4.5 hour drive from Houston to Dallas or a convenient, inexpensive flight on Southwest.
Jim
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Just a "Note " about Kids
You can no longer depend on them being where they are right now for ever or very long in some case's. We have recently been made aware that ..
One Couple was offered a job . N.C. another M.N. and or China... !
Two Appear to be here forever but who really knows ??
I love the Season Changes just maybe not quite as drastic as we see in Chicago and Cozumel is wonderful. . . but Part Time ONLY !
It would appear the Stockton area of Mo. might well be worth looking into as the more I research the area, the more it seems to have much of what I / we and a small we btw
are looking for .
One Couple was offered a job . N.C. another M.N. and or China... !
Two Appear to be here forever but who really knows ??
I love the Season Changes just maybe not quite as drastic as we see in Chicago and Cozumel is wonderful. . . but Part Time ONLY !
It would appear the Stockton area of Mo. might well be worth looking into as the more I research the area, the more it seems to have much of what I / we and a small we btw
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What might be the differences between
What might be the differences between
Truman Res. Lake Stockton and Lake of the Ozarks ??
Good sailing bad sailinig Good wind no wind muddy. . clear. .
sand or rock.
a Ba-zillion boats and people. . . No boats or people but also no ramps . . ??? If you've been there or live there or live close by
Please give me the scoop . . .
Truman Res. Lake Stockton and Lake of the Ozarks ??
Good sailing bad sailinig Good wind no wind muddy. . clear. .
sand or rock.
a Ba-zillion boats and people. . . No boats or people but also no ramps . . ??? If you've been there or live there or live close by
Please give me the scoop . . .
Divecoz: While I am obviously no expert on sailing, I can help you out a little on the region. Stockton Lake is the best sailing lake apparently. Very good prevailing wind and clear water. It is a Corps lake and virtually development free-very wild and no building directly on it. It has 3 marinas, none of which are at all fancy, but very reasonable slip rates, as low as $300/year. Also, quite a few ramps, but they are very minimalist. The city of Stockton is small, about 2000 as I recall, and was nearly wiped off the map by a tornado 2 years ago, but is making a remarkable comeback. Bolivar, where I live, is around 10,000 in population and about 20 miles from Stockton. It has a hospital (my employer!) a little more shopping, etc. Springfield is a city of about 150,000 another 25 miles from Bolivar.
Lake of the Ozarks has the advantage and disadvantage of being the only non-Corps lake of the trio. An advantage because there are many nice homes right on the water with private docks, and a disadvantage because it is very, very crowded in much of the lake with power boats, many of which are ridiculously large and overpowered for the size of the lake. I have never seen a sailboat on it, and my guess is that the powerboaters would make your life miserable. While the lake is beautiful, the bluffs and trees that surround it hurt the wind a lot. Several towns on the lake, the largest of which is Osage Beach, which offers a lot of amenities, but is very touristy and congested. Think Branson-lite.
Truman is kind of the middle ground of the 3. Still a Corps lake so not built up like LOTO, but a little more crowded than Stockton I think. Major towns on it are Clinton and Warsaw. Clinton is a good size town, probably a little larger than Bolivar. It also is the closest to a large city, maybe an hour away from Kansas City. I have heard mixed reports on sailing. It is a larger lake than Stockton, so I am wondering if it has some good areas and some not so good. One problem with it is that it was filled so recently that there are still a lot of dead standing trees in the water in some parts.
In general the cost of living is very low here, as witnessed by the large influx of retirees from around the country, but especially California. With a Mac, of course, you can just locate anywhere around here and trailer to all the lakes. Hope this is of some help, and if there is anything else more specific I can help you with, let me know. One side note; I have poked around all 3 marinas on Stockton, and not a single Mac berthed there that I have found.
Lake of the Ozarks has the advantage and disadvantage of being the only non-Corps lake of the trio. An advantage because there are many nice homes right on the water with private docks, and a disadvantage because it is very, very crowded in much of the lake with power boats, many of which are ridiculously large and overpowered for the size of the lake. I have never seen a sailboat on it, and my guess is that the powerboaters would make your life miserable. While the lake is beautiful, the bluffs and trees that surround it hurt the wind a lot. Several towns on the lake, the largest of which is Osage Beach, which offers a lot of amenities, but is very touristy and congested. Think Branson-lite.
Truman is kind of the middle ground of the 3. Still a Corps lake so not built up like LOTO, but a little more crowded than Stockton I think. Major towns on it are Clinton and Warsaw. Clinton is a good size town, probably a little larger than Bolivar. It also is the closest to a large city, maybe an hour away from Kansas City. I have heard mixed reports on sailing. It is a larger lake than Stockton, so I am wondering if it has some good areas and some not so good. One problem with it is that it was filled so recently that there are still a lot of dead standing trees in the water in some parts.
In general the cost of living is very low here, as witnessed by the large influx of retirees from around the country, but especially California. With a Mac, of course, you can just locate anywhere around here and trailer to all the lakes. Hope this is of some help, and if there is anything else more specific I can help you with, let me know. One side note; I have poked around all 3 marinas on Stockton, and not a single Mac berthed there that I have found.
I'm on the waiting list for a Stockton slip. That's my first choice.
But, I have to have the paperwork turned in by Jan 20, for a slip at Truman state park.
Both are about the same price, ~$800/yr, including trailer storage...
I've overnighted at Truman and its fine. They actually have a pretty cool floating diner at Long Shoal Marina just a little bit away... This would be a huge improvement over Lake Jacomo, where I've kept it to date... It's also a bit closer...
But, Stockton is just plain better, from what everybody says...
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But, I have to have the paperwork turned in by Jan 20, for a slip at Truman state park.
Both are about the same price, ~$800/yr, including trailer storage...
I've overnighted at Truman and its fine. They actually have a pretty cool floating diner at Long Shoal Marina just a little bit away... This would be a huge improvement over Lake Jacomo, where I've kept it to date... It's also a bit closer...
But, Stockton is just plain better, from what everybody says...
on edit: We'd be glad to have you out on the boat too, David...
Aha, a potential M vs X comparison shaping up. We have seen a 2005 M out of the water, so it would be reallly nice to be able to see the other versions too. I know it does not seen to be the most popular layout for most people, but from what we have seen, the 2003-2004 M might be our first choice. Even though the head is nicer on the X, that wide open cabin looks attractive.
Thanks DLT, and if you have not checked it out, you might look at Mutton Creek Marina. It would be a little farther away for you, and is the wrong side of the Hwy 215 bridge from the main body of the lake, but it is quite a bit cheaper, and the bridge is no big obstacle for a Mac of course.
Thanks DLT, and if you have not checked it out, you might look at Mutton Creek Marina. It would be a little farther away for you, and is the wrong side of the Hwy 215 bridge from the main body of the lake, but it is quite a bit cheaper, and the bridge is no big obstacle for a Mac of course.
