Newbie question ... (#1)

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Newbie question ... (#1)

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Trying to attach a five pin flat connector to the trailer harness on my Astro Van and can't seem to find any diagrams. I think one of the wires is for the reverse lights on the van to the trailer harness to disengage surge brakes for reversing.

Anyone know where a diagram might be for the Mac 26M steel trailer with surge?
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Excellent! The second link will help a lot.

Thank you!
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remember that extra wire you are talking about hooking up to your back-up lights will only work if you have the brake de-actuator cylinder installed on the trl :o . I priced the actuator & the efort to install & figured it was not worth the price or effort to install

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Highlander wrote:remember that extra wire you are talking about hooking up to your back-up lights will only work if you have the brake de-actuator cylinder installed on the trl :o . I priced the actuator & the efort to install & figured it was not worth the price or effort to install

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Some Mac trailers must come with the brake de-actuator. I bought my 26m used (so I'm not sure if the original owner installed), but I can not back the trailer up without either (a) having the 5 wire plug connected, or (b) sticking a bolt in the slide to keep the trailer brakes from engaging.
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is installed by factory on new aluminum trailors, not sure about older inferior steel trailors
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Re: Newbie question ... (#1)

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While the surge brakes are optional, any trailer that has the surge brakes should have the de-actuator as part of the system. We ordered ours with factory surge brakes last year and the actuator was included as well as already installed.
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I dont think it came with the steel trailers ...certainly not on my 2002 :macx:
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If you have surge brakes (M trailer) you have the lock out solenoid. It is part of the actuator from UFP. You will have a flat 5 connector The lock out wire is the last pin (opposite side of the ground)

If you do not have surge brakes, you do not have a lock out solenoid (obviously) , and have a flat 4 connector

I don't know if anyone would order the trailer without the brakes. It is amazing how well the brakes work. Our old trailer's brake line failed.. it trailered poorly. When I got my new(to me, used) trailer, I put a new line and actuator on.. Just amazing how much better it towed.
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Looks like the change came with the :macm:

I got one of the last :macx: in 2002, with the super fast latest white paint, and got surge drum brakes without a solenoid.

Ive since upgraded to discs with a lockout solenoid.
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The positive comments that I have received over the years on my :macx: exceed the negative ones. However, the negative ones are almost exclusively from a bunch of blowhards who like to hear themselves talk. I always like the ones who think they have just invented the printing press for the first time when they inform me that "my boat is a compromise and not a proper sail or powerboat". I generally try to end those conversations with a comment along the lines of "what do you mean, it is the fastest sailboat in the marina and the best sailing powerboat on the river".
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icemen20 wrote: "my boat is a compromise and not a proper sail or powerboat".
Well, our boats are compromise boats. Doesn't sail really well or motor really fast. But who really cares. It serves a purpose. For a 26' boat that can be pulled by a normal vehicle, it is very roomy inside and fun to use.

How many 26' boats do you know of that get as much use as the Mac?

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Re: Newbie question ... (#1)

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Paul S wrote:If you have surge brakes (M trailer) you have the lock out solenoid. It is part of the actuator from UFP. You will have a flat 5 connector The lock out wire is the last pin (opposite side of the ground)

If you do not have surge brakes, you do not have a lock out solenoid (obviously) , and have a flat 4 connector
The lockout solenoid is an option. I have an M trailer with surge brakes, but no lock out solenoid, and it has the 4 pin connector. To lock out the surge brakes requires that a mechanical key be inserted into the slot on the actuator.

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I didn't think Macgregor even offered surge brakes without the lockout solenoid.

The only option when we got ours was no brakes, or brakes with the solenoid. Never saw a third option brakes without solenoid.

Must be a pain to have to put the key in every time you have to back up! You could always get the solenoid and put it between the brake line and actuator..
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Well I will be checking my trl its a 2008 Alum, I beleive it has the 5 pin connector but I definatley know the trl manaul says its a option thats avail. . so as I said after checking out the price & the installation instuctions I said to myself I'm not that lazy I can walk that far !. But now after hearing from some of the guy's who have the Alum trl I'll take a look to see if their is actualy one their as I never bothered to look after reading it was an option in the manual !! :o
If its their I'll be hooking it up :D

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