headsail sheets snag on mast base

[hartflat]

Finally replaced the OEM Doyle genoa with a much better quality Hyde 150% genoa. Excellent construction for the price... What a difference!

There is an annoyance that hasn't gone away with the new sail, though:

Occasionally, while tacking fully unfurled, the genoa sheets get snagged on the base of the rotating mast. This can be a real pain, while sailing single handed, requiring me climb on deck to unsnag it. I've thought about homebrewing some sort of mast boot, but wanted to check if anyone else out there share in this annoyance.

(Still haven't found a solution for the mainsail halyard snagging on the portside forestay hound, but thats another topic)

Ray

[Hardcrab]

I get that sometimes also.
Anymore, I don't fret over it because the lazy sheet always un-snags itself on the next tack.

[hartflat]

Hi there Hardcrab,

Thanks for the post... BTW, finally got a slip in Oxnard. Using our a whole lot more now. Not a bad price for the amenities that come with the clubhouse.

[robbarnes1965]

I get the same problem or it snags at the stanchion/lifeline. I found this site. http://www.wayfarer-international.org/W ... sheet.html Fisherman's knot might work but I am not sure if my lines sheet might be a bit large. Something to toy around with next summer.

[Terry]

I cannot imagine how the lazy sheet on the genoa finds its' way to the mast base???
I have had my 150% genoa for6-7 years and never encountered it, ever. I have my genoa sheets led outside of all shrouds and usually when I tack I only let out enough of the previous working sheet to allow for the full tack, nothing extra to catch the mast boot with, although it does occasionally get hung up on the forward stantion if I am not paying attention.
As for the halyard, you have to keep it taught while hoisting the sail so that it does not find its' way around and over to the port side of the mast. You do have the main halyard on the starboard side of the mast don't you? Once hoisted you need to keep it tied off tight so that it does not flap around up there. Where is the main halyard cleat? Hopefully on the far starboard side of the mast or if it is led aft then to the clutch on the starboard side near the winch. My halyard use to get hung up on the forestay hound bolt that protruded out the starboard side while hoisting until one day I pulled the bolt out and put it back facing port. The headsail is on a furler so the halyard is always stationary and does not get hung up on that bolt end.
So you got a Hyde sail...I got the Hyde cruising gennaker/asymetrical spinnaker with sock/chutescoop or what ever you wish to call it. Quite happy with Hyde quality, recommend it to anyone.

[hartflat]

Yup... the darndest thing, eh? Everytime I go out, they get stuck at least once.

Your tip on keeping the main halyard taught seems to be the only way I can keep it from snagging on the portside of the hound while raising the mainsail. The mainsail halyard cheek block at the top of the mast is on the starboard side of the mast.

The Hyde sail is great! Beautiful construction & high quality material. Got their touring class sail with UV cover for well under $800.00 US. Pricier than KH, but well worth it. Gave them the 150% genoa specs from the MacGregor website & the sail was a perfect fit. Bought it thru their Anapolis, MD distributor Scott Steele. The service was excellent & it was delivered in 3 weeks, AS PROMISED. I wasn't aware of Judy B 'til after I ordered it, but I'm sure either way, I would have gotten the same attentive service.

Oh yeah, I'm definately going with a Hyde mainsail when my current KH takes a dump.

[Judy B]

Finally replaced the OEM Doyle genoa with a much better quality Hyde 150% genoa. Excellent construction for the price... What a difference!

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(Still haven't found a solution for the mainsail halyard snagging on the portside forestay hound, but thats another topic)

Ray

Ray,

Glad you like your Hyde genoa. I agree, they are gorgeous. (Life is too short for me to sell junky stuff. Only the best. )

Can you post a picture of your forestay hound, and tell me where the halyard snags on portside? Maybe I can help you solve your problem.

Judy B

[Judy B]

...
So you got a Hyde sail...I got the Hyde cruising gennaker/asymetrical spinnaker with sock/chutescoop or what ever you wish to call it. Quite happy with Hyde quality, recommend it to anyone.

Hi Terry,

Do you have any pictures of you flying the cruising chute/gennaker/asymmetrical spinnaker with the sock/snuffer/chutescoop ??? I'd really like to see one. (and I need some for the on-line store I'm working on)

Regards,
Judy B

[hartflat]

Hi Judy,

Thanks for your interest.

Actually, the halyard ocassionally snags on the port side locking nut of the mast raising winch hound . I've covered it with aluminum flashing tape, which helps a little, but doesn't totally solve the problem. The halyard leads up to a cheek block at the top of the mast, then goes down & through a Harken swivel block on the starboard side of the base of the mast. It then goes through a block attached to the base of the starboard stanchion abeam of the mast, then leads to a rope clutch just forward of the cockpit. The setup is ideal for single handed sailing when a dodger is in use & does not appear to be the cause of the problem.

I did replace the original halyard with a heavier & better quality line, which may, or may not be the cause of the snags. I suspect that the rotating mast of the may play a part in all this.

In any event, I've pretty much resolved to declare this an imponderable annoyance that probably has to be lived with.

I'll take a pic the next time I'm at the slip.

Ray

[c130king]

Ray,

You are not alone. I have the same two issues. Halyard occasionally (I will say 12.62% of the time) hangs up on the end of the bolt/nut on the port side of the mast. And probably about the same percent of the time the Genoa sheet will hang up on the base of the mast.

And if I leave my front hatch open...which I normally do...I sometimes get a hang up on the hatch latch threaded bolt.

These are just quirks that make the boat interesting...

Cheers,
Jim