First timer here, and just got a V22

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Captain Travis
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First timer here, and just got a V22

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Hi all, and thanks for having me here.

I am a first time sailor, I have been on a sailboat twice before, once on a sunfish 25 years ago and once on a cat 20 years ago.
My Uncle had a v22 sitting in his backyard that he decided he did not want there anymore and gave it to me. I am not sure of the year, but it has a pop top and the kicker mounts to the transom on the port side, it does not use one of those aluminum brackets to mount. It is a project that a friend of the family gave him and so forth. Upon inspection the hull, hatches and exterior bits look fine (of course it needs a good prime and paint, but all in all not bad. The interior has been gutted so I am starting from scratch with no idea how things were originally outside of pictures on the internet.

Run down of what i can tell it will need.

Weather stripping for the windows
replacement front window
V berth rebuilt
Left bench top rebuilt
main berth / galley seats
table top / main berth center
electrical refit / new lights, radio, power plug in ect
Decide how to deal with the under cockpit area.

Plans
Build an access in to the V berth for battery storage, and put some of the flotation foam in there as well
Hinge the seat on the left bench for storage
Hinge the galley seats
build an area under the rear cockpit access panel for gas tank hold downs
some new wood trim
Fit as much foam as i can under the rear cockpit, and keep it level with bench seat and galley seats


a few questions,
The forward supports for the pop top are missing i think, are they anything special, or will just aluminium or stainless tubing work, and what is the length of the originals?

The table hardware is missing as well, any suggestions on what to use for replacement parts?
Also, as the interior is gutted, I have no idea how the orginal table worked. I can tell from pics that there was a removeable center support, and i see on the boat there is a little ledge sticking inward on the hull, at about the right height for the table edge to rest on. IF I am correct that that is what the ledge is for, how did the table top attach to it.

Any detailed pics of the table and how it works would be great.

As for doing the repairs, I have worked a fair amount in wood (have built 2 houses, and have remodeled my last 2 on my own) and have some experience in fiberglass ( have built a glass bodied T-Bucket) So I am fairly sure I can do the work to the boat. I just have nearly no experience repairing a boat like this, and zero experience with how sailboats are laid out. So any help or suggestions would be great.

the materials i plan on using for the repairs are
Treated Plywood for the seats and berth repairs with a birch top lamminated to the table top / center berth
fiberglass weave and epoxy resin over all wood, except the table / center berth
Cedar for the misc trim that needs to be replaced.

Thanks again,
Travis

Oh, and this boat will see 99% of its time in the st. Croix river in minnesota doing weekend over nights, and pleasure cruises to get dinner at one of the towns on the river. So no ocean time, or great lakes time. Maybe a trip to one of the larger lakes in the area, but not to often i would think.
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Freedom77
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Re: First timer here, and just got a V22

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Sounds like a project. Nice thing is you can build it out to you satisfaction and specifications. Send some pics as she sits now and maybe some of us can offer suggetstions. This and Sailboatowners.com are great sites for helpful info and support. Also contact Bluewater Yachts in Seattle 1-800-688-8626. They specialize in Venture/Mac stuff. On what part of the planet are you located? "THERE IS NOTHING--ABSOLUTELY NOTHING HALF SO MUCH WORTH DOING AS SIMPLY MESSING ABOUT IN BOATS" Ratty from Wind in the Willows. Fair winds and full sails...Old Salt...
Captain Travis
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Re: First timer here, and just got a V22

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I am on the east side of Minnesota. I will get some pictures next week, the weather is miserable here right now.
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Freedom77
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Location: Lake Mead, Nevada '76 V-25 #928

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Yeah we have weather too! 104 this week and summer isn't here yet. Windy so it's like standing in a blast furnace. Big fire up norht so lots of smoke. But have lived here 40 years and love it. Good luck on the restoration. we on the site will help when we can.Did you see the news about the guy who windsurfed 56 miles across Lake Michigan. WOW Fair winds and full sails...Old Salt
gedaggett
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Re: First timer here, and just got a V22

Post by gedaggett »

What you have is a V 222. I have the same boat and she is a blast to sail. I sail out of Michigan City Indiana on the south east corner of the Lake Michigan. The boat is a simple boat to sail but will offer you some characteristics of a big boat. The swing keel offers you some good stability up with full sail inventory able to be aloft in up to about 12 knots when solo and 15 - 16 with some rail meat. She love a beam reach and will easily reach her theoretical hull speed in 15knts with relative flat water. I have had mine out in 12 to 15knts and 5 footers (short wave length 15ft peak to valley) and though she performed swimmingly it is not a very comfortable ride. You are going to enjoy her. She will be relatively cheap to maintain and can handle a great deal for her size.

As far as some of the items you noted. I would suggest placing the battery box back by the companionway next to the keel box on the starboard side. There is a spot there that is perfect for it and it puts your battery weight lower and if you go out on the big lake it is better for handling. The Tab you mentioned is for the table and I think that they used a wing nut or knob to hold it down. i am going to build a stow-able crutch for my boat. You will want to have some good filler agent for your epoxy for doing fillets and such. Here is a link to my refit of my 73 222 "Stinky Monkey"
http://www.anything-sailing.com/showthr ... nky+monkey

Feel free to let me know any questions you have about the boat refit.
SeamanLou
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Re: First timer here, and just got a V22

Post by SeamanLou »

Just finished a major refit of a '70 V22.
- Cleaned up down to bare hull and removed old peeling paint.
- Reinforced stringer to transom connection (poorly done in manufacture and other spots throughout)
- Painted topsides and inside.
- Replaced all the plywood.
- Replaced cloudy safety glass with new Lexan.
- Built a reinforcement for the keel winch
- Built a removable step for the companionway
- Installed a battery and box - on starboard stringer
- Made a switch panel and rewired the boat in plastic conduit.
- Reinforced comings and deck with full area 3/4" plywood.
- Installed Vee reinforcement under bow.
- Rebuilt area between topside well and transom at motor cutout.**
- Prettied up cabin area.
** Check this carefully!! On mine, there is a gap between the motor well and transom which prevents a tight clamp down and cracks the topside at the transom. This must be repaired before attaching the motor.
After a year and $2500 its ready to sail.
Mcginn
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Re: First timer here, and just got a V22

Post by Mcginn »

SeamanLou, I am also looking for the length of the pop top arms. if you have figured it out please let me know, thanks!
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