Using Jib Tracks with Genoa

[RobertB]

Has anyone been able to improve pointing ability of a by only partially unfurling the genoa and rigging thru the jib blocks up front?

[Tomfoolery]

You could probably accomplish the same thing with a make-shift barber hauler, if you wanted to experiment with various amounts of lateral influence on the genoa sheet and various amounts of genoa unfurled. But to answer your question, no, I haven't tried that. I don't even have an .

[bartmac]

I can see where you are coming from but consider the fact that the sail shape of a partially furled genoa is severely compromised by the furling itself...I tend to think not.I have noticed my pointing ability of our X using a 150% genoa is not as high as when using a standard jib....which I thought to be expected....so the rigging of the jib on a seperate furler is the solution...probably as per many others have already done

[Catigale]

The jib will point the snot out of the genny at best shape and outperform even worse with the genny partially furled.....even I could get the sails to perform drastically differently......

[Russ]

Nope. Never tried it. It's a Mac after all.

If I need to reef the genoa, performance isn't on my mind.

[Steve K]

barber hauler,

Is that the same thing as,what they call a Tweaker? (small adjustable line about mid sheet.... or is a Tweaker something altogether different)

If so, I extensively experimented with this on my X (with furling Genoa). Really didn't help any.

Catigale right again:

The jib will point the snot out of the genny at best shape and e gen worse partially furled.....even I could get the sails to perform drastically differently......

On the X boat, for sure.

Maybe another reason I decided to keep a variety of easily hanked on head sails on the D, rather than going with a furler. That and I'm cheap

How many of you here have tried changing sails, on a CDI Best done at the dock, if you ask me and you'll never do it through a single tack.
jmho
SK

[Catigale]

Changing sails on the CDI at sea...ugh....it's a tough feed up that slot and easy to fall off the bow with all that slippery sail around...

[bartmac]

No no no 2 furlers one for each probably a la Highlander

[Steve K]

Changing sails on the CDI at sea...ugh....it's a tough feed up that slot and easy to fall off the bow with all that slippery sail around...

Cat,

When I had my X boat, I did find the cure for getting a sail up and down that CDI foil slot, fairly easily.

McLube and plenty of it. And regularly.
Spray the slot and the sail tape and the halyard liberally. I forget exactly how it looked, but also that little slot/fairlead, for the halyard, at the top of the foil. (not the foredeck though )

My Genny would slide right down on it's own (almost)

But still, it takes some time to change a sail on that thing. Going bigger was not a huge problem, but going smaller could be a pain, because the reason for going smaller is the boat was likely getting overpowered. AND you have to completely unfurl that Genny, if you want to remove it......... What a pain. I think this was one of the two times I almost went off the boat.

Funny how fast and hard one can grab something and pull himself back on board, particularly when single handing

Best Breezes,
SK

[Steve K]

No no no 2 furlers one for each probably a la Highlander

Yes, I got you.

Problem there is you have to tack the forward sail through the slot between the two furlers. You'll need a second set of sheets for that forward furler, that are long enough to go all the way to the bow, plus the length of the forward sail's foot.

Not saying this can't be done. Plenty guys do it. Just too much stuff on deck and too much weight, for mast raising for me.
(not to mention adding weight aloft on an already tender boat)

Another reason I didn't put a furling unit on my D boat. Raising the mast is much easier without it. (I keep my boat on the trailer so raise and lower the mast, every trip).

However, one of the cool things about a Mac is they are easy to set up to ones taste.

Best Breezes,
SK

[Catigale]

...another alternative...second forestay and hank on jib...a lot less weight and let's you choose sail too...

[bartmac]

Hadn't thought through the tacking the front sail between the 2 furlers...that makes the idea of a jib with a integral stay a better idea ie only raise the jib when needed and no problem tacking the genoa

[Highlander]

Two furlers & two forestays allow me the chioce of 4 head sails & Spinnaker or drifter , just think 12 sheet lines & no issues


here I was experimenting with the running rigging

J

[Steve K]

Highlander

To confusing for my limited grasp of line handling

SK

[Hamin' X]

Highlander

To confusing for my limited grasp of line handling

SK

You've got to realize that John is liberally dosed with Monkey Shoulder, so he doesn't care which sheet he grabs.

~Rich