Salvage Yard

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sailingv17
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Salvage Yard

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Does anyone know of a salvage yard that would have parts for a Venture 17? I need a rudder and rigging. I picked up the rudder hardware from the classifieds ad on here(worst case I will build one). However it would be great to find one ready to go. A new rudder cost more than I paid for the boat. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I am to the point with the restoration that I could at least get it on the water. Won't be pretty, cabin will still be gutted but should sail once I get these couple missing pieces.

If you want to see my progress my blog is http://1974venture17.blogspot.com/

Thanks everyone!
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topcat0399
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In mid-america sailboat salvage yards and sail lofts are non-existant from what I can tell.
On the coasts I'm willing to bet it's a little easier to find/scrounge parts.

People regularly advise things like "take it to your local sail loft". Right. Good luck with that.

You will find many many items you might need will exceed your purchase price of the boat - get used to it.

Really - If you can do that deck work, and replace your v-berth, reman that trailer - you can build a rudder.

Mine was in sorry shape when I got it - so I did some gluing up and varnishing; it will last for a while.

But when the time comes (and it will) that I need a new one - I will become a double amputee before I pay $1000
for a rudder such as from IDA. We are poor sailing mice.

I have already procured a solid core door for the stock. I can easily shape it and I may even choose to glass it - or not.
I've seen some mighty fine tillers made from things such as a wheel barrow handle.

Just my .0001 cents for what its worth.

Exactly what rigging are you looking for?
sailingv17
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Thank you for your help. I have found a few salvage yards on the coasts. It looks like I will end up building my rudder. 99 people have viewed this and you are the only person to respond. I am just can't wait to sail it! I have the cables that hold the mast up but I don't have the cables to run the sails up.(excuse my generic terminology) I may end up ordering cable and doing that myself also. Just thought if there was kit for something like that it would make my life easier. Thanks again!
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RobertB
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sailingv17 wrote:Thank you for your help. I have found a few salvage yards on the coasts. It looks like I will end up building my rudder. 99 people have viewed this and you are the only person to respond. I am just can't wait to sail it! I have the cables that hold the mast up but I don't have the cables to run the sails up.(excuse my generic terminology) I may end up ordering cable and doing that myself also. Just thought if there was kit for something like that it would make my life easier. Thanks again!
Standing rigging (that that stays put), generally wire rope on our boats, are called shrouds and stays.
Running rigging (that you adjust to operate), using rope (but referred to as lines in operation) are halyards (to raise/lower sails), sheets (to adjust the position of the sails), and others such as topping lift, lazy jacks, daggerboard line, rudder lines, and anchor rode.

As far as building a rudder, if not already posted on the site, suggest finding/asking for a sketch of what was on your boat. Then, previous posts have a lot of (sometimes conflicting) information on how to make. Really not hard, I made a kickup rudder for the first sailboat I built, minor project). But, I really do not see how a solid core door is going to work (most solid core doors are not structural, just means the filling is rated to resist burn through or break-ins). If money an issue, I would be more likely to use some good pine lumber covered in epoxy and fiberglass.
sailingv17
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Re: Salvage Yard

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RobertB wrote:
sailingv17 wrote:Thank you for your help. I have found a few salvage yards on the coasts. It looks like I will end up building my rudder. 99 people have viewed this and you are the only person to respond. I am just can't wait to sail it! I have the cables that hold the mast up but I don't have the cables to run the sails up.(excuse my generic terminology) I may end up ordering cable and doing that myself also. Just thought if there was kit for something like that it would make my life easier. Thanks again!
Standing rigging (that that stays put), generally wire rope on our boats, are called shrouds and stays.
Running rigging (that you adjust to operate), using rope (but referred to as lines in operation) are halyards (to raise/lower sails), sheets (to adjust the position of the sails), and others such as topping lift, lazy jacks, daggerboard line, rudder lines, and anchor rode.

As far as building a rudder, if not already posted on the site, suggest finding/asking for a sketch of what was on your boat. Then, previous posts have a lot of (sometimes conflicting) information on how to make. Really not hard, I made a kickup rudder for the first sailboat I built, minor project). But, I really do not see how a solid core door is going to work (most solid core doors are not structural, just means the filling is rated to resist burn through or break-ins). If money an issue, I would be more likely to use some good pine lumber covered in epoxy and fiberglass.

Thanks for the info and the terminology lesson. I was waiting for someone to tear me apart. Glad you responded! A new guy can get beat up on some of these forums.
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Re: Salvage Yard

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RobertB wrote:
sailingv17 wrote:Thank you for your help. I have found a few salvage yards on the coasts. It looks like I will end up building my rudder. 99 people have viewed this and you are the only person to respond. I am just can't wait to sail it! I have the cables that hold the mast up but I don't have the cables to run the sails up.(excuse my generic terminology) I may end up ordering cable and doing that myself also. Just thought if there was kit for something like that it would make my life easier. Thanks again!
Standing rigging (that that stays put), generally wire rope on our boats, are called shrouds and stays.
Running rigging (that you adjust to operate), using rope (but referred to as lines in operation) are halyards (to raise/lower sails), sheets (to adjust the position of the sails), and others such as topping lift, lazy jacks, daggerboard line, rudder lines, and anchor rode.

As far as building a rudder, if not already posted on the site, suggest finding/asking for a sketch of what was on your boat. Then, previous posts have a lot of (sometimes conflicting) information on how to make. Really not hard, I made a kickup rudder for the first sailboat I built, minor project). But, I really do not see how a solid core door is going to work (most solid core doors are not structural, just means the filling is rated to resist burn through or break-ins). If money an issue, I would be more likely to use some good pine lumber covered in epoxy and fiberglass.



Ok, maybe my door terminology is wrong - its a door made of a solid slab of wood and structural or not - its plenty strong enough to make a rudder out of. Especially if I decide to glass it.

As far as the running rigging he's missing; might just as well pony up and invest in some line - it lasts along time.

I purchased "Nova Tech XLE" 1/4" and 5/16" of various colors. In the case of line: too much is better than not enough. For main sheet I eventually went to
3/8" (easier to handle).

We are off for a five day sail now - see ya!

Happy Sails
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