Mainsail and genoa modifications questions

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Mainsail and genoa modifications questions

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I am waiting for my 26M, which was schedule to arrive on May 27; however, was posponed again :x so a "new" date was set for June 13. We will see about that. Meanwhile I made them send mainsail and genoa so I can make some modifications to them.

Anyway, I would like to add sliding slugs to the main. How many would be the best and what size?

I would like to also add a UV strip to the genoa. What should be the width of it and what type of material would you recommend.

I live in Salt Lake City, Utah and my options for a local help is very limited.

Thank you for your help,

Jacek
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Probably I got misunderstood. I am new to sailing (only one season experience). What I wanted to accomplish first is very simple. I am going to have genoa on the furler and I wanted to protected from the sun. A local person who makes additions and modifications to the sails suggested a 18 inches UV strip on genoa. Since I have only main and genoa at home and my boat is schedule to arrive in the middle of June I thought it would be good idea to make some work ahead of time since it takes at least two weeks for a contractor to do anything. I do not want to loose any more time from our very short sailing season in Utah.

As far as main I wanted to add sliding slugs to have better control of maing when I hoist it up or lower it down and later as you suggested to run additional lines to the cockipt so I can do more single handed sailing.
Again I only need to know how many slugs, what should be the distance between them and what size (diameter). I can see several different slugs in the catalog: 3/8, 1/2, etc.

Sorry for the confusion,

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Post by ESPERANZA »

If I were you, I would PM Bill at Boats 4 Sail. He cans end you a diagram of the slug layout that will show you quantity and spacing...
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Than you for giviing me a direction to go and find out.

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Post by baldbaby2000 »

Ask whom ever you have modify and upgrade you sail about a flattening ring and Cunningham ring if youre more into sailing.
I know what a Cunningham is but what is a flattening ring?

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Post by richandlori »

jg4986,

I am stunned it will take two weeks! The guys at North sails in Oxnard, CA only took a few days. FYI for sail slugs and UV strip of sunbrella, it ran me about $350-$400 (paid cash and can't remember exactly). The slug spacing is different as you come down the mast. If I were you, I would go to some one like Bill@boats4sail who has experience on a MAC and not someone who has just seen a mac on the internet. You DO NEED the slugs, they are worth every penny and make raising/lowering the mainsail easy as falling off the boat. :D

What about a mainsail cover? is that on you list in matching sunbrella fabric? mine was custom for $275. I would get it at the same time as the UV strip.

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JG9546
SLUG NYLON 1/2" ----25 p/n 23308

SHACKLE PLASTIC SCREW-ON 5/8"---25 p/n 24105

BALL TRACK STOP ROUND----1 p/n 3543

Place the shackles about 28" apart starting from the top. space a little farther apart at the reef point. Make sure you have lots of space around the reef point.


As far as Uv strip I would go with a sock on the Geneo, as the geneo is large the roller Fulrling is small and a bit weak. The weight of the uv strip
would make it more of a hassle to furl. Normal jib I would go with the strip.

as far as the sock run a line up with the sock, when the sock is all the way up twist the line tight around the sock. This will keep it from flapping in the wind....

You can buy all the slugs and shackles from sailrite .com total cost to me was $50.30 make sure you get Nylon slugs...
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Post by richandlori »

The old disagreement over "UV Strip vs sock" for Genoa protection is as old as the "tastes great vs less filling" debate and all comes down to personal preference. I have never seen an actual "poll" to show where this boards membership stands, but from my personal perspective why would I want to mess with one more item like pulling up a sock? When I furl my 150% genny, it is done and forget about it. No need for a trip to the bow or another halyard to have slapping around. I can't really tell you if the extra weight of the UV strip actually makes any difference in sailing performane or ease of furling, but I can't detect any, but I could be a boozo.
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naw to me its like what color boat. It doesnt make any diff Im sure but you have to sew the strip on and the sock just seems no big deal. But I guess if I could do it again I would go with the strip. So It doesnt matter really. I thought that all the extra winding because of the strip the furler would be maxed with line or close to it. But like I said I would go either way and not lose sleep over it. Now off to the boat

oh I put the sock on when Im back on the trailer not while under way.
and its just one of those things I do before I leave it. By the way who did your strip?
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Post by Catigale »

With the Torlon bearing upgrade on the CDI FF2 and the 150 genoa the furler is very easy to deal with.

Before I bring my halyards back to the blocks, I check the furler for the right amount of line on the furled sail, about 6 wraps. THis method requires you tension the halyard to get a nice tight furl, which is good seamanship anyhow.
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Post by richandlori »

Aya,

I went to North Sails, Channel Island. Dave Miller was a delight to work with and spent tons of time explaining the process and options to me. He is definitely "old school" where customer service was important, I think he is in his early 60's.

Dave Miller
Service Manager
3481 West Fifth Street Ste# #100
Oxnard, CA 93030
Phone (805) 984-8100

Rich

PS
Did you make it out to Catilina Island this weekend?
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Post by aya16 »

catigale: you just added to my to do list, bearings



richandlori: Ill check it out . How long did it take them to do the job?
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Again thank you for all the responses.

Jacek
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